Computer CPU help?

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mike_mck2

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I am attempting to replace the Intel Celery CPU with a Pentium 4, but when I install the new CPU and try to boot-up, I just get some kind of "siren" going off, and nothing happens.
By "siren", I'm talking about something that almost sounds like a car alarm, but not nearly as loud.

My motherboard supports the Pentium 4 w/ HT, which is what this CPU supposedly is, so I'm at a loss.

I did buy the CPU used from someone who upgraded their Dell system, but I saw the CPU running fine in their system before I bought it.

Any idea what the problem might be or what I might try?

TIA
 
Do you have the manual for your mobo? The "siren" is usually a series of beeps telling you which "something" is wrong. The error codes are listed in the manual. Did you triple-check all of the jumper settings on the board to be sure they're right for your CPU?

J-
 
sometimes those are soft settings in the BIOS

can you get to the BIOS setup?
 
if it sounds like a car siren going off, most likely the chip is overheating. Do you have a heat sink attached to it? If not, it needs one. And, if so, they work much better with a product like Arctic Silver. You can get it, or something like it, at your local Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. for 5 to 10 bucks.
 
These are not beeps like you would usually hear. This is more like a theft alarm...is you can imagine that.

I can't get to the bios setup, nothing at all. Just starts whooping, and that's it.
 
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Yes, I have a heat sink and fan directly attached to it.

I put my celery back in and did not bother to attach the heat sink/fan, and it shutdown ASAP, within like 4 seconds. I touched the chip, and it was extremely hot. This was my celery though, not the new P4.

roughedges said:
if it sounds like a car siren going off, most likely the chip is overheating. Do you have a heat sink attached to it? If not, it needs one. And, if so, they work much better with a product like Arctic Silver. You can get it, or something like it, at your local Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. for 5 to 10 bucks.
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Are the voltage settings correct? How about any clock frequencies?

The alarm you hear is probably voltage induced overheating or possibly a frequency setting that is way out of whack.
 
mike_mck2 said:
I am attempting to replace the Intel Celery CPU with a Pentium 4, but when I install the new CPU and try to boot-up, I just get some kind of "siren" going off, and nothing happens.
By "siren", I'm talking about something that almost sounds like a car alarm, but not nearly as loud.

My motherboard supports the Pentium 4 w/ HT, which is what this CPU supposedly is, so I'm at a loss.

I did buy the CPU used from someone who upgraded their Dell system, but I saw the CPU running fine in their system before I bought it.

Any idea what the problem might be or what I might try?

TIA
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So is your machine a Dell? They way I read this, the P4 chip is out of a Dell...is that correct? The Intel mobo/processors for Dells are proprietary unless they've changed something recently! You can't even plug an ATX power supply into a Dell mobo! If you're lucky...nothing will happen but usually some smoke starts to escape from vital components :eek: .

Bottom line is that if you are trying to put a proprietary processor into a non-proprietary mobo...even if it is the same brand...it might not work out.

John
 
Never had much luck myself with working with Dell stuff..:grumpy:

What system/mobo do you have?

Keep a close eye on your CPU temps.
Heat is the life shortener and killer.

I have an XP2800+ that set the siren off at 91c under full load...:mad:
Heat sink looks good on mine but I got fluctuating FSB...:confused:
 
No, my machine is not a Dell. Are you serious? How do you make a proprietary CPU? I don't really doubt it, as I had heard this type of stuff about Dell before, but I just can't imagine how it's done.


jchaney said:
So is your machine a Dell? They way I read this, the P4 chip is out of a Dell...is that correct? The Intel mobo/processors for Dells are proprietary unless they've changed something recently! You can't even plug an ATX power supply into a Dell mobo! If you're lucky...nothing will happen but usually some smoke starts to escape from vital components :eek: .

Bottom line is that if you are trying to put a proprietary processor into a non-proprietary mobo...even if it is the same brand...it might not work out.

John
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I'm afraid so. Don't get me wrong......Dell seems to make some good stuff...but...

I have a Dell Dimension Pentium III 733Mhz and I wanted to upgrade the video card a few years ago so I thought I'd beef up the power supply I got at a good deal (Antec). I removed the old one and plugged the new one up and nothing happened...which was a good thing! Put the orginal power supply back in and the original video card back in and it fired right up. Worked fine. I did a little research and found out then that they were proprietary. They use the standard ATX connections but the main connection to the mobo pin-out is different! You can buy adapters that go between the power supply connector and the mobo to get you by from what I read. These were Intel mobo/processor combos. I've had no problem with RAM, hard drives, CD/DVD drives swapping out...just the powersupply. I would almost bet money that is your problem.

Dell is now offering AMD chips as well. I would imagine they have some kind of agreemet with AMD also. I guess they do that so you have to order replacement parts from them instead of any other computer part supplier?

I needed a machine a few years ago for my wife and needed it fast. I bought her an eMachine because I couldn't build one that cheap for just the tasks she needed to perform on it. I went with an eMachine because it is true ATX form factor when it comes to swapping out all parts. They may have a mobo that is only sold to them but that might be it. I think just about all the manufacturers are getting back to standard form factor equipment because people were avoiding the proprietary thing.

I would look into buying a mobo/processor combo if you are wanting to upgrade. Especially if your RAM is compatible with the new mobo. I think I like the AMD chips as well. I've had Intel and AMD machines side by side with very similar specs doing a zero routine on the hard drives and format/OS install at the same times. The AMD box left the Intel box behind when it came to downloading and processing the Microsoft updates for XP. I know they both have their good and bad points but I would avoid anything proprietary.

John
 
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