Conceal Carry Permit For Knives

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Here's a strange question. Obviously a conceal carry license applies to firearms, but does it also apply to knives?
 
Not even remotely a strange question. In fact, a very intelligent one. As markksr noted, it varies from state to state. Unfortunately, there's no way to know for sure short of actually reading the enabling statute or talking to someone who has read it. In Colorado, knives are not included in the CCw law.
 
Thanks for the responses. I just got my conceal carry permit and, being a knife nut, I was curious if it also applied to knives. It would make sense to me, but if there's anything I've learned re: knife laws..........nothing makes sense. :eek::barf::
 
AustinTXShooter said:
I am 99% sure that in Texas it doesn't apply to knives.
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If I recall correctly, Texas still has that old 5 1/2 inch law that applies to knives carried by anyone, regardless of whether or not you have a permit.
 
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Samael said:
Not even remotely a strange question. In fact, a very intelligent one. As markksr noted, it varies from state to state. Unfortunately, there's no way to know for sure short of actually reading the enabling statute or talking to someone who has read it. In Colorado, knives are not included in the CCw law.
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Interesting, my ccw instructor said that it did. Now I'm bummed. :grumpy:
 
most carry permits are pretty specific, as they should be.

i imagine if you are able to obtain a firearm permit, you should be easily able to obtain a knife permit or add the enhancement to your existing one.
 
AustinTXShooter said:
I am 99% sure that in Texas it doesn't apply to knives.
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I asked during my CHL class and the officer that taught it said no way! So I'm definitely sure it doesn't cover knives in Texas. Though I carry around a 4 and 1/2 incher everyday and don't get any slack even with the clip hanging out. If you had to use in self defense though the officer did say it might go down better with the courts seeing that you had a CHL license.
 
jdm61 said:
If I recall correctly, Texas still has that old 5 1/2 inch law that applies to knives carried by anyone, regardless of whether or not you have a permit.
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Correct my friend!

(6) “Illegal Knife” means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one half inches;
Rainer v. State, 763 S.W.2d 615 (Tex. App.-Eastland 1989, pet. ref’d) To determine
length, measure entire length of blade past handle, not just the sharpened portion of the
blade. Same result in McMurrough v. State, 995 S.W.2d 944 (Tex. App.-Ft. Worth 1999).
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
Albert v. State, 659 S.W.2d 41 (Tex. App.-Houston [14th Dist.] 1983, pet. ref’d) Martial
arts throwing star qualifies as “a hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being
thrown”.
(C) dagger including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
Armendariz v. State, 396 S.W.2d 132 (Tex. Crim. App. 1965) A knife slightly over seven
inches in length when open, equipped with a double guard, blade that locks open and is
sharpened on both sides of blade for over an inch meets the definition of a dagger.
(D) bowie knife;
Mireles v. State, 192 S.W. 241 (Tex. Crim. App. 1917) A knife in a scabbard with a blade
nine inches long and a handle four or five inches long described as a butcher knife was
embraced in the term “bowie knife” as defined by the Penal Code.
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.
(7) “Knife” means any bladed hand instrument that is capable of inflicting serious
bodily injury or death by cutting or stabbing a person with the instrument.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
most carry permits are pretty specific, as they should be.

i imagine if you are able to obtain a firearm permit, you should be easily able to obtain a knife permit or add the enhancement to your existing one.
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The State I live in gives great latitude for carry. Any type/caliber of hand gun as many as you want and with few exception any type and size of knife baton etc that you want to carry that's because they issue concealed "Weapons" permits rather than a hand gun carry permit.


I disagree that permits should be spacific and you should just add on endorsements. Keep them simple and all inclusive.

Possibly that is "possibly" expand the training requirements to touch bases on "optional" weapons.
 
Here in Washington state the CWP doesn't allow for knives, which makes NO sense. I can carry a fully-loaded 16 shot Glock 10mm concealed, but not a fixed blade.:confused:.
 
glockman99 said:
Here in Washington state the CWP doesn't allow for knives, which makes NO sense. I can carry a fully-loaded 16 shot Glock 10mm concealed, but not a fixed blade.:confused:.
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I agree with you totally; of course if I had to choose though for protection the glock would win hands down! :-)
 
Bors said:
The State I live in gives great latitude for carry. Any type/caliber of hand gun as many as you want and with few exception any type and size of knife baton etc that you want to carry that's because they issue concealed "Weapons" permits rather than a hand gun carry permit.


I disagree that permits should be spacific and you should just add on endorsements. Keep them simple and all inclusive.

Possibly that is "possibly" expand the training requirements to touch bases on "optional" weapons.
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good points.

in ca, for example, a "guard card" will list various calibers that are included. most list 9mm, .40, .45, and .38, which are the "police" calibers.

my contention with "simple and all inclusive" is they create too much liability for the carrier. if one carries only one or two firearms regularly, he/she likely practices more with those than any others.

also keep in mind, ca is the most litigious state in the nation. we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 280,000 lawyers currently practicing. (compared with roughly 100,000 police officers/sheriff deputies).

only washington dc has more practicing lawyers than california.

kinda depressing.
 
Texas allows for carry of both folders and fixed blades 5 1/2 inches or less. They can be carried openly, or hidden. I do some of both.

Also, the TV news a few weeks ago reported a new law that allows concealed carry of previously illegal "weapons" in automobiles. Including, but not lmited to guns, swords, clubs, machetes, etc. Does anyone have any more info on this?
 
joe-bob said:
Texas allows for carry of both folders and fixed blades 5 1/2 inches or less. They can be carried openly, or hidden. I do some of both.

Also, the TV news a few weeks ago reported a new law that allows concealed carry of previously illegal "weapons" in automobiles. Including, but not lmited to guns, swords, clubs, machetes, etc. Does anyone have any more info on this?
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I would like to know some more about this also. I remember when the law was originally passed in 2005 it said you could carry a gun in your car without a permit if you were traveling, but if I recall correctly there was no definition given for the word traveling. It was so poorly written that it could be left open to interpretation by district attorneys, which is never good. I remember reading an article where the Harris County (city of Houston for those not in Texas) said he would not follow the new law and anyone found with a gun in their vehicle and no permit would be arrested for illegal carrying of a firearm.

I found these, but there is no mention of knives, machetes or other tools.
http://www.dailysentinel.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/09/19/Crime_Handgun_laws.html
http://www.thesop.org/index.php?id=7492
 
Obviously a conceal carry license applies to firearms, but does it also apply to knives?
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It's different for every state, as mentioned. In my state knives are not included with CCW permits.

Here in Washington state the CWP doesn't allow for knives, which makes NO sense.
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The most logical reason for that is there are no standardized training or proficiency tests for using knives. Maybe that's something Knife Rights or ATKI could provide in the future, the same way that the NRA does for firearms training certifications?
 
PSB said:
Thanks for the responses. I just got my conceal carry permit and, being a knife nut, I was curious if it also applied to knives. It would make sense to me, but if there's anything I've learned re: knife laws..........nothing makes sense. :eek::barf::
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With all due respect, if you HAVE a CCW permit and dont even know what it allows you to carry do you really have any business having one in the first place??? Seriously.
 
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