Concerned about flying with your knife?

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I flew from Boise to Ohare and back last week with my old EZ-out ( 3.5 inch blade, partly serrated).

Well, like I had decided I took the knife off my waistband put it in the tray:

Boise-Chicago= No problem, they didn't even open it.

Chicago-Boise= The woman opened it and said, "you can't take this." I asked her "why not, whats wrong?" She said, "It's a WEAPON."

To shorten long story, she walked me over to the United counter where you check odd sized stuff and handed me off. They took my knife, and began to tape it onto the inside of a cardboard box, and got it ready to go down the black hole with a conveyor belt.

Well I had a little time on my hands so I said, "what is wrong with this knife exactly, I've been flying for over two years with it and have had no problems till now."

She looked on her computer and said "knives LESS than 4 inches are prohibited." I felt she had read it wrong, so I asked her about carrying a really large knife (5 or 6 inches), would that be OK? Her answer, "It's a weapon." I then asked her about carrying a 1/2 inch bladed knife...Her answer, "No."

I said, "I don't believe it. I would like to see it in the regulations, please."

Well they actually made me a printout (I guess they are not supposed to) she tore off the header so I couln't prove where it came from and handed it to me.

Side note: She was very polite and sedate through our entire exchange, I wonder if they give all the ground agents valum during the holidays?
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The list:
"- The following items may be permitted into the sterile area in the airport as long as the items are permitted onboard due to size/ available storage space restrictions.
Baseball bats, cameras, cricket bats, Gold clubs (2), Hockey sticks, Knitting needles, Letter openers, personal audible alarms, POCKET UTILITY KNIVES WITH BLADES LESS THAN 4 INCHES (emphasis added by me), pool cues, scissors, trade tools, bowling balls, camcorders, darts, fishing poles, horse shoes, laptop computers, parachutes - without cartridge, restraining devices, ski poles, "unbrellas"."

By the time I got the printout my knife was gone.

I took the sheet with me through security got the supervisor and pitched a (little) fit. She asked it the knife were SERRATED? I said "yes, a little bit by the handle." She said that that was the reason; "no serrated blades."

I asked a friend, a police officer assigned to the airport, about the incident. He checked into it and confirmed the unwritten no serrated edges policy. However he said you can carry ammunition
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(up to 9 lbs. or so) as long as it is in the original packaging.

It seems to me that the knife policy is pretty stupid and arbitrary.
Heck with trying to be low key, I'm going to start carrying my Spyderco Military plain edge (3 7/8 inches) and a 4 inch ruler along with me to prove it.
Got to protect myself from all the baseball bat, ski pole, bowling ball, Gold club, ammunition, and knitting needle wielding maniacs!

Know-what-I-mean?

Regards,
Stocky



[This message has been edited by Stocky (edited 22 December 1999).]
 
I know what you mean. Here in Hawaii a friend who installs fiber-optic cable was flying from island to another. He carrie smost of his tools in a tool bucket, and security searched it. After rummaging through the tools they removed his ball pien hammer and left his drywall saw! They told him that ball pien hammers were strictly prohibited, but his drywall saw was okay! Imagine the headline..."Man hijacks airliner with ball pien hammer" I think the airlines need to re-evaluate what makes a "weapon" dangerous, rather than having totally random rules. No one has ever hijacked a plane with a pocket knife, it just doesn't make sense.

~Mitch
 
Gents, check out my old thread 'Airport Fun'.
A woman walks through with a Spyderco in her luggage through the checkpoint and passess.

So she gets mad and tells airport folk. Short story, she gets the rule of no more than 3" blades passed. Then she says it's not enough that "I could cut your throat with a 2" blade just as easy."
 
I've been told any serrated blade, even as small as a Ladybug, is prohibited. I carry one on my keychain, but the same day I bought it I also bought a little Cold Steel Tuff-Lite folder. The blade is 1.75" long and is a plain-edge clip point. Got it specifically to put on keys for airline travel.

I also carry an SAK, which so far doesn't get a second lool.

There may be more problems with carrying knives on a plane now due to Y2K and heightened security.
Jim
 
Looks like this may have been a misreading, maybe?

"The following items may be permitted into the sterile area in the airport as long as the items are permitted onboard due to size/ available storage space restrictions."

It then lists items that may be PERMITTED, not PROHIBITED.

So it's saying that you may bring

"POCKET UTILITY KNIVES WITH BLADES LESS THAN 4 INCHES" (emphasis added by Stocky
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onto the plane, provided that space is available.
 
PERMITTED ... you may bring ... "POCKET UTILITY KNIVES WITH BLADES LESS THAN 4 INCHES" onto the plane, provided that space is available.
Gee, so here all this time, I thought they were afraid that somebody travelling with, say, a Sifu would be inexorably drawn to hijack the plane...

...and now it turns out that they're just worried that it won't fit into the carry-on luggage compartment
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I think the airlines need to re-evaluate what makes a "weapon" dangerous, rather than having totally random rules.
Why? That would only make planning easier for anyone planning to use objects as weapons aboard, if you want rules which would allow, for example, small knives.

No one has ever hijacked a plane with a pocket knife, it just doesn't make sense.
No? But at least one member of the flying crew has been killed with one and aircraft have been hijacked using only simulated weapons.
 
I see your point Griffon. I guess I forgot that hijacking isn't the only bad thing that can happen. I guess any irate (and perhaps intoxicated) person might be liable to do bodily injury on someone in the aircraft. Perhaps I was just thinking of myself and my knives.
 
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