Confiscated airport knives on ebay?

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I watched a news report about airports putting their confiscated knives and scissors on sale as surplus property on ebay.

I turned up just one example.

Has anybody seen any of those? In the program they clearly showed what was probably lots of 200 scissors, a dozen multi tools, etc.
 
Why not? With the drop in airport business, it's probably a good idea for them to penny pinch as much as possible. Plus, they're probably going to get to sell some of those a couple of times.
 
Though I don't like thinking that knives may be confiscated so that they can be sold for revenue, it is better than just having them destroyed.
 
The signs are posted, the knives are NOT legal to carry on the plane...if you can't read, or try to be 'clever', be thankful that it's only your knife they're taking...

Do I like it, do I agree with the policies? No, of course not, but 'Oh freaking well'...so, the last thing in my bag as I check it is the knife, and it's also the first thing out...even before I leave baggage claim...

Besides, there are better things than knives to take in your carry on if you're really worried about your inflight safety...lol ;) (No, I'm not telling, be creative folks)

Confiscated knives for sale on ebay? Yeah sure, I'll believe that when I see it, but like Keith...I'd rather see them resold than destroyed.

Mel
 
And what should law enforement agencies do with confiscated property? Some of it obviously has to be destroyed. But destroying property is remarkably expensive. Most states allow departments to sell off surplus property after it's no longer required for legal proceedings.

Law enforcement agencies have been selling off confiscated property forever. It's been mostly done at auctions which are poorly publicized (how often do you read the "legal notices" in the back pages of your local newspaper?) and attended mostly by dealers. Very often, the stuff is bundled up into lots which drive the price up beyond what a typical individual wants to pay and require that to get a certain item, you have to buy the whole lot. There's usually a requirement that the property must be removed within a few hours of the sale, but the lots are so large that if you don't have a commercial truck, you can't deal with them. Etc. The whole thing is largely a honey operation for the dealers who end up acquiring stuff for fractions of a penny on the dollar.

And these sales are typically contracted out to auctioneers who take a generous commission on all sales further reducing the department's take. In many cases, the only benefit the departments get out of these sales is to clean out their store rooms.

In fact, the dealers who frequent these auctions often end up selling their purchase where? On eBay!

Lately, several major agencies have begun selling stuff on eBay. The overhead cost is actually lower than the auctioneers used to charge and the prices they get are much higher than the dealers used to pay.

Many departments have found that they can buy a PC and a digital camera, hire someone part- or even full-time just to administer the department's eBay business (and let's face it, putting stuff on eBay isn't exactly rocket science) and turn a tidy profit.

And it's actually good for the general public because it now gives everyone access to this property on a more equal basis.
 
They confiscated a one inch safety pin from me 6 months ago... if anyone sees it on ebay, let me know willya?:grumpy:
 
lol mutt!!!!

....I think the thing to remember is to check your knives in your bag, or leave them at home so they won't have anything to sell!!!;)
 
I find it pretty stupid that the airlines are acting the way they are. I guess they expect someone to hijack an airplane with some fingernail clippers any day now. Their reaction to those tragic events is like putting on a seatbelt after you have alrady wrecked. When people have been coaxed into acting like sheep, they will. We have certain "liberal types" who tell us it is better to submit that to fight back. Sarah Brady told our Nation's women that it is better to submit to rape that to defend themselves with a gun because shooting someone is such a terrible thing. We tell store clerks to submit to robberies and hope that the guy with a gun in your face is in a good enough mood not to blow your head off. Well things are starting to change.
It is ridiculous to enforce some after-thought, feel good policies as far as carrying knives on airplanes. Do you really think anyone could hijack a plane in this country again? If a guy stood up with an M-60 machine gun in a plane right now, he might get a few people, but the rest would kick his a$$. The alternative is unthinkable. I know I am preaching to the chior here but I just had to rant.
I am a police officer and I can say that the Klinton administration really tried pulling the wool over the people's eyes when he tried to convince everyone that cops love his anti-gun policies. What a load! Most cops I know could care less if John Q Public carries a gun. The people who want to do us harm will do so regardless of what the rules say...that is why they are criminals. If everyone on a plane was carrying his or her knife and a guy with a box cutter tried to take over now, we would need sponges to clean up the hijacker.
 
Mr. MelancholyMutt, next time, don't wear the safety pin through your nose like that and maybe they won't notice it. :D


Mr. Spudley112 comes close... The events of Setp 11, 2001 were incredible. Four or five men armed with nothing more than box cutter knives, "knives" -- if you can call them that -- with no more than an inch of edge, managed to hijack commercial aircraft. I don't think you could rob my local grocery store with a box cutter. How did they manage to gain control of these aircraft?

The answer is that, at the time, it was airline policy to capitulate to hijackers. This policy was based on the premiss that the hijackers wanted to survive. If we just cooperated, we would all survive with them. We might get a complementary trip to Cuba or something, but if the hijackers would live through it, then we all would. That was the unwritten social contract that governed aircraft hijacking.

On the morning of Sept. 11, those men boarded those aircraft in violation of that contract. They didn't expect to or even want to survive. With the premiss broken, the capitualate policy failed horribly.

But, on one of those aircraft, the passengers decided to re-write the unwritten social contract, and that re-write is permanent. Airlines have changed their official policies and passengers have changed their personal policies too.

How did the hijackers get into the cockpits of those aircraft? Experts believe they were invited in before the planes even took off. One hijacker on each team was a licenses commercial pilot. To keep such a license, you have to log a certain number of hours in the cockpit each year. Just sitting in the jump seat can count for some of those hours. So, it was a common practice for airline pilots to allow other pilots to ride in the jump seat to log their hours. Not any more!

There's a bit discussion right now about arming pilots. But all of the planes involved on Sept. 11 were Boeing jumbo jets. That means the pilots were already armed. The FAA requires that cockpits have a "secondary means of egress." Most aircraft designers satisfy this by making the large front windows openable. But Boeing refuses because they think it's unnecessary since no pilot has ever successfully egressed via such windows following a crash and because it compromises the structural integrity of the aircraft. The compromise that allows the FAA to have its secondary egress and Boeing to build the planes its way is that all Boeing jumbos are equipped with an ax. The ax is mounted on the wall in the cockpit. Federal law prohibits one of these planes from taking off without the ax. It's on the pre-flight checklist. Trapped pilots can use that ax to smash the cockpit windows and egress through them. In my book, an ax usually beats a box-cutter knife.

Recently, a mad man did try to break into the cockpit of an aircraft. He actually managed to break part of the door and get about half-way in before one of the pilots beaned him on the head with the Boeing Ax.

Had this happened a few years ago, the ax-weilding pilot would doubtlessly have faced disciplinary action from the airline upto and including termination for having abused the poor passenger, criminal charges including assult with a deadly weapon and maybe even attempted murder, and then the passenger would have sued him for injuries and also for pain, suffering, and a lifetime of mental trauma.

But, in the post-Sept 11th environment, on-board Air Marshalls arrested the man who is now the one facing serious criminal charges and the pilot is a hero.

It is unfortunate that it took the events of Sept. 11th to make that change in attitude.

But there has been a change in attitude. Because of the new attitude, the events of Sept. 11 are simply not possible anymore. Never again will five men with box cutter knives be able to defeat a hundred passengers, five cabin crew, and two pilots armed only with magazines, blankets, pillows, food trays, and one ax.

That change did NOT come from new technologies, from expensive luggage scanners, from strict security screenings, or from stun guns or even real guns. The technology was never lacking. The deficiency on Sept. 11 was not in technology or even procedures at the security checkpoint or in the cockpit. The deficiencies that made the events of Sept. 11 possible, the deficiencies that those terrorists expertly utilized, were in our attitudes.
 
Spudley, it's not the airlines. It's the gov. They require those standards, and it's gov employees doing the confiscating and scanning.

Phil
 
Sorry I had to rant, guys. I know you are right but I guess like anyone else, I use tragic events to make a point. Whenever a police officer goes to the academy he is always told that dying in the line of duty means everyone spends three days mourning your death and three years talking about what you did wrong. I am in NO WAY trying to diminish those peoples tragic end. Just like Steven Dick said once, "If I was aboard one of those planes, I would have probably submitted as well." I just really hate that we have been so conditioned to lay down and take it. I guess my feelings on this matter is why I never give any good citizen crap about carrying the means to protect himself. There are plenty of bad guys out there without trying to make a bad guy out of the average citizen. I Just want the average citizen to realize he DOES have the right to protect himself. As I said before, I think Klinton did a great disservice to the average American by convincing him that using force to protect yourself is wrong.
 
BTW...I would like to know more about the confiscated items being sold. I would think they could at least try to get the items back to their owner somehow. I know they say, "Hey, you should have read the sign," but honest mistakes can be made. Perhaps the airlines could use some of my tax money that they got bailed out with and mail my knife back to me!
 
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