Convex bevel and freehand sharpening

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Somewhere I've read a claim that you can't get an ultimate edge freehand because nobody can keep exactly the same angle throughout the sharpening process. Elsewhere I've read that a convex grind can give a superb edge.

Now it seems to me that, unless you can hold it perfectly on angle, sharpening by hand (or sharpening with a Spyderco 204) would almost by definition give you a convex bevel. Is this wrong? Say you're really good but not perfect. Say you're trying to hold it at 20 degrees but in fact vary between 18 and 23. Won't you end up with a convex bevel that begins at 18 degrees and curves over to 23 at the edge?

And won't this "problem" holding the precise angle just give you a nice convex bevel?

I realize that it will take longer due to the fact that many of your strokes won't go all the way to the edge; that only the strokes at the biggest angle (23 degrees in this case) will directly affect ultimate sharpness. But other than the increased time, what really is wrong with being a bit sloppy with your free hand or V-stick angle?
 
I agree with your analysis and get very sharp edges freehand, and yet people who use blade clamp systems claim extrordinary sharpness that I have not seem. For example Mr. Talmadge indicated that he could shave hair without touching his skin using a water hone and clamp. This was with an AUS-8 alloy blade. I've gotten very good shaving edges on AUS-8 blades freehand, but never something I could shave with above my skin. Either the clamp system does something I don't understand or my hair is very different.
 
I have been able to get knives sharp enough that I could catch the hair on the blade, move the blade, and have the hair pop of where the edge touched it.... Im not terribly consistent with this however... takes a lot of patience.... I use a fine ceramic hone. then I strop no more than 3 times per side.... depending on how concentrated I am I can get that edge....
 
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