Cork Belts as opposed to 400 grit belts for finishing?

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anybody do this to save money on belts? I read where a cork belt could be used with some type of gel on it. For finishing a blade. the cork belt apparently lasts quite a while.

What kind of gel or grease is good to use on the cork belts?
 
You use buffing compound on them. I use green on mine. The cork belts need to be broken in before you use them.
 
Does anyone use them as they come without compound? I have tried a 220, 400 and 600 as they come without compound and they seem to work fine, somewhere between a regular belt ano a scotch brite belt. They have some give to blend but not so much they round grind lines over.

Trugrit has instructions on breaking in a cork belt.
https://trugrit.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=8
 
I use a 400 grit cork belt on some knives. I will likely use it more now that I have a rotary platen. It's hard to tell the difference between the finish it gives me and the finish a grey scotch brite gives (if ground to the same grit prior). I use them interchangeably really. The scotch brite when I want the belt to conform or blend, the cork belt when I want to preserve lines to a greater extent. I don't load it with anything. I did follow the break in procedure.

What I've been doing is grinding with a 120 ceramic, then an A100 trizact, an A65 trizact and then cork 400 grit. Between the A100 and A65 I put the blade on the hand sanding board and do just a very small bit of sanding with 150 grid laterally so that I can see when all the scratches are gone using the A65. Otherwise you'll think they're gone until using the cork/scotchbrite and then they'll pop back out.
 
i like them because i am still using my first ones. very economical. i have read they last for years, i have done about 100 knives with mine so far. all that money i spent on 400-600-1000 grit belts before i got corks !
 
John have you had to "reload" them with grit?

I;ve used Cork 400 Belts with and without Green Chrome Compound,I like the Satin Brush finish you get.
Yes! I put more Green on the belt when I switch to the other side of the blade.

Works Great but You may look like a Martian by the end of the day!:D I wear a face shield and respirator of Course.
 
John have you had to "reload" them with grit?
no, even though i did not understand why people would use polishing compound i would give it a swipe before i used it because everyone else was doing it :D i have never had to reload them, they seem to work just as well as when i got them. mine are about 50% flat/shiny. so there is still some rough areas to hold the compound. the grit is in the adhesive with a cork belt, so it makes sense until you wear it off to the backing, it will cut. the cork bits just give it thickness and texture.
 
That makes sense. I don't use any compound on my 400 grit belt. Only on my cork no-grit belt.
 
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If you are using cork belts without the green chrome but are using belts more course than 400 you will probably find they have a tendency to slowly get to a point to not cut very well. There is an actual "belt grease" you can buy to eliminate this instead of going with the green chrome. The spaces in the cork actually plug off. The grease gets them open again but what a mess! I believe all makes have silicon carbide as the cutting agent. Yes, you can grind the whole blade with these belts. I often think to try that again but on a hardened folder blade. I believe they do work better after heat treat than before. For the polishing with say the 400 grit or better yet perhaps zero grit it is recommended to get the belt sized very flat before using. A steel bar or old large file can be used for another messy job.
Frank
 
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Steve (SR) Johnson shared this process years ago. In (one of his) video's he shows the process if you are are see it to believe it guy. I use it now fairly often myself.

Cork belts can be used with out compound and will give you the finish of the grit - generally. I think they go dull fairly quickly that way and rarely use them with out compound. I also think the finish is a bit uneven when used "plain". That's just an opinion of course.

When you get your first one you will wonder if they shipped you the right thing. It will look very coarse and rough. Cork "gives a bit" and the abrasive is loaded into the cork so in use, the cork gives into the pressure and the abrasive does the work - giving you hopefully a nice even finish. Cork belts are notorious for giving an uneven finish when brand new. You will see errant scratch lines from high spots or large piece of cork. It's hard to screen the cork bits to a consistent size.

The solution is to run them at full speed and push some scrap steel into them with some moderate to hard pressure. You will shave off some loose pieces. This is what you want. You also want to wear down the high spots. If you shave all of the cork granules off, you pushed too hard. :) Ten minutes of this gets mentioned often but I've found after just a few minutes the belt surface has evened out. A quick pass or two on a blade blank and examining the finish will tell you if you are done breaking it in or not. Look for uneven lines in the finish. It should be very consistent across the entire pass. Green Chrome compound will come in several different flavors. Some types are drier, some have more wax base and these tend to stick better to the cork belt. If your compound all flings off, try another type. You will get maybe a 50% coverage on the belt with even the stickiest compound. That's more than enough.

I use them because they save time. I can take a 120 grit finish to mirror finish (and any place in between) in quite a bit less time than progressing through several belts. To do this, load them up with green chrome buff compound and give them some pressure when finishing. A light hand here pressure wise will only heat up the blade.

The compound flings all over the place and has to be re-applied in just a few minutes and then you get flinging green stuff all over. Only a portion of the compound ends up sticking. The compound that sticks to the belt combined with the abrasive in the cork sticking out will "smear" the rougher grit finish away.

Buff compounds are generally either cut or color. Rougher compounds cut (black, gray, bobbing), color compounds polish and color (green, pink no scratch and some whites)the steel. Most makers use green chrome on a cork belt as it polishes nicely and gives the steel a pretty blue color. The color is only the way the light reflects off the steel. You aren't really colorizing the steel at all.

The grit of the cork belt matters. Recently I tested a 240, 400 and 800 cork belts side by side using green chrome. You could clearly see the differences in the finish they each left. I now tend to use a 40 or 800 grit belt with cork. If I don't want to get all covered in green chrome (not good to breath in btw - use a respirator) I progress through belts to get the finish I want. Every knife doesn't need to be a mirror or satin finish. It's not a binary choice.

The cork belts tend to last a very long time. The joint tends to fail before you "use them up".
 
For those of you who like to use the 400 grit cork belts without green compound like myself you my want to try the break in procedure I have been using. I use a piece of stainless steel 3/4 inch round bar and try not to round the corners of the belt excessively and push the round bar on a rest against the belt for about 5 minutes total before using. I have also found that on my hollow grinds I get better results when I hand sand to about 800 grit lengthwise on the hollows before going to the cork belt and finally a fine scotchbrite belt. This works pretty well for me. Larry

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