Cougar observation from the kitchentable - two new PUMA knives arrived today

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Hi guys & gals!

I posted this in the "Whatcha got on order..."-thread some days ago. A friend of mine called me last weekend and told me, he planned to order at PUMA knives - keeping the shipping costs limited I told him, that I´m interessted in some of their knives so we ordered. ;) Today it happened and the two ordered PUMA (english: cougar) arrived. I was not thinking about something special ... but I was really surprised when I opened the package and the knives it contained.

Two very great looking knives from one of the oldest german cutleries that still exists.

First I wanted another Jagdnicker, next so my Linder one. So I was searching a long time and then I found the Jagdnicker by PUMA and it´s actually a half integral knife - I would also have been satisfied with a fulltang construction... but the more the better :D

The other one I just bought for fun is a PUMA Stockman with stag covers. This knife has very little flaws like a not-so-strong-spring and not 100% matching stag covers to the bolsters.

I gonna let the pics speak of their own ...



As you can see - the stockman is satin finished while the Jagdnicker is mirror polished



Interessting, but common size differences between the two stag covers on each knife ... but that´s normal for stag, imo



No gaps or bladeplay on Stockman knife...



PUMA shield ;)





Now the Jagdnicker - the stag on that one is really great imo





Actually a half integral - no pinned bolsters or whatever on the tang...



For size comparison with todays EDC



I´m pretty impressed by the quality these two knives were made. I never had PUMA really on the radar - but this was a mistake, I think. Especially their fixed blade is a really great and very solid knife. It will great for summer carry while wearing the traditional bavarian clothes. :D

Thanks for looking - and I´m looking forward hearing your comments, fellows! :)
 
Nice cats. I really like the fixed blade. I have a German made Puma Bowie as the only Puma in my collection but I really do like it. I find them to be well made with good f&f. Congratulations.

jwh
 
Great buys Andi. Its great to see more European traditional makers still going strong! You are blessed in Germany.

I do like that stockman. It's combed long pull is very attractive.

What is the steel on these knives?
 
Nice additions, Andi! I really like that Jagdnicker.
 
Both beauties Andi.
You got me thinking -
Puma is a Spanish word from Quechua (i think that's a language) and
Cougar is a French word from Guarani- guacu ara-
both are likely corruptions of Native American words for what the English unimaginatively called a Mountain Lion.
 
Thanks for showing us those beauties Andi! I too really like that Jagdnicker! The swell and curves of stag can create some interesting grips, that one looks rather comfortable.
 
Well, in fact, I really forgot to tell you which steel is used on these knives...

In their catalogue, the used steel for the stockman is 1.4110 at 55 - 57 HRC and on the Jagdnicker there is 1.4034 at 52 - 54 HRC ... really nice steel which are pretty common in german knives. The hardness is not that high, but I trust in the knowledge that PUMA does on their HT and the steel they are using.
 
Very nice, Andi! I really like the (half) integral construction of the Jagdnicker! Congrats on your newest acquisitions.
 
Thanks Andi. Yes those are well used steels, tried and tested.

I think the hardnesses really represent the ease of field sharpening, and particularly for the Jagdnicker, the specific use of this knife. Not so hard as to damage so easily when performing its 'task' and dressing game and so on.

Also notable is that Cognet also only harden their Carbon blades to 52 and they are grrrreat!
 
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Nice scores. I am a long time Puma fan since I was small. I remember my Dad having one of their old Bowie's back in the early 70's (a knife that now resides in my safe). So I have several more as well. Will have to get a few pics here and post.

On another note, if you like integrals (who doesn't :rolleyes:) then look for a Skinmaster if you have the chance. Absolute beast of a skinner.
 
Thanks for the kind words, fellows :)

I hope you have the chance to get your hands on one of these nice german made knives as well.

Thom, that was my thought as well when I read their technical specs about the steel compared to the hardness etc. I really think, that they are pretty easy to sharpen. The used steels are really not high-end-steels but still very good steels for users.

Just another sidenote: These Jagdnicker knives were originally not made for cutting. They were made for stabbing deer. The deer has to be stabbed into the head like shown in this link: http://www.hegering.at/abnicken.htm
The term "abnicken" is a little related to the word "abstechen" in german language, which means stabbing.
But as these knives are traditionally used in Bavaria and whole Germany for many many decades as fixed blades that are stored in some kind of cargopants; people added a nice edge on these stabbing-tools and so there has a really great knifepattern been born. So the sheath on these knives traiditonally doesn´t have a belt loop for hanging there.
So to say - it´s a real pocketknife ;)
 
Mink: It would be great to see your PUMA knives... These knives somehow have a real appeal, in my eyes.
 
Will do Andi, just have to go digging. We knife nuts can accumulate a few I am sure you know. ;)
 
Heck yeah, I'm in for some Cougar photos! I love the thought of an attractive, older, feisty...wait, why is everyone looking at me like that?
 
Nice additions, Andi! I really like that Jagdnicker.

+1, a classic German pattern beautifully executed. Thanks for the story behind this one, and for showing us these two lovely knives :thumbup:

With all these fine knives you've been getting lately, I hope you have strong floor-boards! :D
 
Well... not really... I need to think about an extra box for all those beauties I´ve gotten lately.
 
Thanks for sharing these - beautiful stag on both :thumbup:
I've been tempted by Puma for awhile now (and you've really got the gears turning now :) )
 
I own this knife. I have had it for years. I think I bought it as a second, you can see the mistake someone made on the spine. However, I think it looks alot like your Puma.


 
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