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Could anyone give me some feedback on surgical steel. My EDC is a gerber surgical steel blade and I'd like to know a little bit more about the steel. It's been a good blade so far and holds a good edge I'm just not sure about tensile strength, bend tests, etc. Any info would be greatly appreciated!!
 
There is no specific steel known as surgical steel. It's a marketing term, meant to sound impressive. After all, surgeons use scalpels and scalpels are sharp so surgical steel must be what's used in those sharp scalpels, right? Nooo ... :p

By calling their blade material surgical steel, the company does two things.

First, they lead you to think it's sharp. As a matter of fact, it may well be. I've had a few Gerbers and liked every one of them.

Second, it allows them to change the steel they use whenever they like. After all, whatever they use is still surgical steel -- because they say so. It may be better or it may be worse than what they were using before, but none of us will know.

To be fair, even a company that tells you they use 440A or ATS-34 isn't telling you how well they heat treat the steel, and that will make a big difference in performance, too.
 
Esav is completely correct. Heat-treating is critical.

Having said that, my personal rule is "Don't buy it if they won't tell you what it's made of." There are so many good choices that there doesn't seem to be any need to buy something made of "Mystery Steel."
 
Well that's definately good to know. I have the Gerber Winchester hunter, it may not sound like much but it's served me well. Any ideas as to how well it will hold up? It holds an edge like nobody's business I'm just worried about it's capabilities, say insofar as fighting, etc.
 
Generally in my experience you'll definately know a good knife from a bad knife just by using it. Most of the "Junk" knives that I wouldn't trust tend to be small SAK knockoffs, and while some are better than others I tend to stick them someplace where they'd be handy but not essential. Plus, when I tend to smack up a knife I'd rather it be a cheepie than a high-dollar gentleman's knife.

The Gerber Winchester looks to be a decent knife from the pictures I've seen. I've had a few Gerber knives in the past, and the only problem I've ever had has been small areas of rust on the ones that I used in a marine environment without much ability for care. I've got a Gator right here beside the computer waiting to be stowed away in my camping gear. My theory on tools is that I'd personally favor having the best I could afford, but I like to have a fairly decent backup that I could lend/borrow/sell without too much of a worry. I can put a knife through a lot worse abuse than it would most likely ever encounter in a fighting capacity, and I'd say that while I wouldn't want to do it on a daily basis the Gerber should hold up to the majority of my demands. If it's working for you, stick with it. Save up some money and try other knives, there's bound to be others out there that you'll like even more than the Gerber. It sounds to me like you've found one that's working for you right now, though, so I'd stay with it while I look. .
 
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I'll admit I'm the FNG onboard and I didn't expect so much help; thanks so much! I can't tell you how much I've learned in just the few days I've subscribed to this forum. Kudos!
 
hello,
I thought this info might be of some use, the term surgical steel is indeed misleading when applied to a knife you or i would use. But it means there is generaly a high chromium content making the steel much less prone to rust/contaminents than a high carbon leveled steel and there for more inert to a human patient being opened up by the blade. (in a medical sence of cours).
 
Actually fellows I believe in "Hooberbloobs Knife Anatomy" (5th edition) in states that "surgical steel" is a later day offshoot of the ever popular "Samurai" or "Ninja" steel that so many of todays fine cutlers/circus barkers use for their finer knives. You can tell the knives from the beautifu l multi colored faux wood handles. ;)
 
I called Gerber awhile back and they told me that if the knife steel isn't all ready stated, then anything listed as "surgical stainless" is 420HC. :barf: This is why Gerber has lost me as a customer.
 
I bought a Jaguar Balisong in San Fran once. Surgical Steel of course. I was young and knew nothing of steel types, although I had a feeling it was some generic Chinese piece. Regardelss though, it was crazy sharp and kept an edge far longer than I expected. Quite a steal for only 20 bones ^_^x
Anyhoo, I suppose the moral of the story is: Go ahead and buy it if it's cheap and pretty; you may be pleasently surprised.
Why did I ever sell that balisong?
 
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