Council Tool Velvecut ... more to come

Dunner

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I e-mailed Council about their Hudson Bay Velvecut to find out a couple things and asked if there were other models that would get some Velvecut login'. I got a nice response to my questions and was also told they are considering ...

Small double bit (Cedar axe style) or
Small camp axe or
possibly a Jersey patterned axe.

I just thought I would pass that along.
 
I e-mailed Council about their Hudson Bay Velvecut to find out a couple things and asked if there were other models that would get some Velvecut login'. I got a nice response to my questions and was also told they are considering ...

Small double bit (Cedar axe style) or
Small camp axe or
possibly a Jersey patterned axe.

I just thought I would pass that along.

I hope they come out with a SINGLE-bit cedar axe! :D
 
Be interesting to see what they do. If they made a 2.5lb Connecticut with a nice thin profile on a 28" haft, I'd be all over it like ugly on ape.
 
Be interesting to see what they do. If they made a 2.5lb Connecticut with a nice thin profile on a 28" haft, I'd be all over it like ugly on ape.

This. Though I'd lose control on anything in the three quarters range, irregardless of the pattern.
 
Awhile back I remember reading a rumor about council making a shipbuilder axe or carpenter hatchet based on an old design.

The small double would mean new tooling for them. The others they might be able to use the same tooling. Will have to monitor best made site for clues.:)

I agree about the 2.5lb ish 3/4 axe. A jersey or a connecticut would be great! Price them right though! Under $100
 
Council gave me a good answer on the hardness of their Velvecut axe. I told them the RC range they quote (50 - 54 RC) is too much of a risk for me to buy. I felt that range was too soft to almost hard enough. The woman who replied told me they hear that often and in their QC tests their Velvecut Hudson Bay axes are averaging 53 - 54 RC. They make the obvious argument that they want the axe to handle freezing conditions and strikes on nails or rocks well and I respect that. I do want a go anywhere, any time, any wood axe. I feel better about that.

Cattledog: Reading YOUR impressions of your Hudson Bay Velvecut got me fired up about that axe too and I will get one as soon as I can manage.

In the meantime I also got in touch with Brent Bailey and I think I am going to get an axe from him as well. I have to sell my one last valuable knife to move into a couple nice axes and smaller companion knives for my backcountry carry.
 
M3mphis, for some reason that squarish looking axe laying on the blacksmithing manual looked cool to me so I had to ask him about it. He said that one was a 2 1/2 lb "Coal Axe" made out of 5160. He told me he made that for a guy for $150 or so. He also said his work ships in SEVEN days. Pretty amazing work, fast turn for custom and what I believe to be very fair prices for custom work... could become a problem for me. I have to credit CollinAshmore for making me aware of Brent Bailey Forge in my other thread on ideal axe hardness.

Brent told me he has some other designs in the works that would make better bushcraft/pack axes so I am waiting for more info.
 
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Hi Dunner,

Glad you got in touch with Brent. He was a real pleasure to work with. I've used the axe I have from him a few times now, and it's a beast. Takes a really great shaving sharp edge. When working with it, the shaving sharp edge doesn't last really long, but it does stay sharp for a very long time, and cleans up easy with just a strop. I've not the slightest edge deformation with it either.

Mine is a 2.5 Hudson Bay style pattern, and the price was similar to what he told you. Keep in mind shipping is a little more than with knives because the package is big, but I think it's definitely worth it.

Collin
M3mphis, for some reason that squarish looking axe laying on the blacksmithing manual looked cool to me so I had to ask him about it. He said that one was a 2 1/2 lb "Coal Axe" made out of 5160. He told me he made that for a guy for $150 or so. He also said his work ships in SEVEN days. Pretty amazing work, fast turn for custom and what I believe to be very fair prices for custom work... could become a problem for me. I have to credit CollinAshmore for making me aware of Brent Bailey Forge in my other thread on ideal axe hardness.

Brent told me he has some other designs in the works that would make better bushcraft/pack axes so I am waiting for more info.
 
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