cutlerylover
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Ok guys, here is another example of todays counterfeits in the knife industry...I purchased these 5 knives for myself as a novelty...I know it sounds strange but I like to own a few knives like this to show non knife people what to look out for when buying knives...When I show off my collection to people or if they ask about ym knives I also give them a lesson about knives in general, and I use these as examples of whats fake, and why...I find counterfeits to em interesting, no matter what an item is be it a knife, a hat, or anythgin else, there are usually some kind of fake out there to replicate it at a cheaper cost...Now with these knives here there is a copyright issue because fake logos are beiugn used on them to pass them off as brand name knives...Anyway I wanted to post this info for the new guys and maybe even some of the vets to look out for these...I will NOT say where I bought these though because I know the moderators as well as James does not want that info spread in case someone else wants to buy them purposefully to sell...But I know some of you already know where I got them...I cna tell you they came directly from CHINA, big suprise right, lol....
ok, I made a short video just showing each knife real quickly to give you a perspective on size a little and the markings...
http://s131.photobucket.com/player....p282/cutlerylover/IMGP0095.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
1st knife ) This knife looks to be a copy of the gerber air ranger, although it is marked smith and wesson, I know this is a fake just by the design, no other marking sare found on the knife...
2nd) ok, now this oen is crazy, lol, 1st off it has a big R on the pivot screw...is this suppose to be representign chris reeve? thats what I thought when I 1st saw it, but maybe I am strange, lol...then you have some other markihns on the handle, I saw the MT to be maybe missrepresentign microtech? Obviously these are not logos, but im my eyes poor atempts to give away some kind of false representation of the knife...Ok, now again the smith and wesson logo, but this is obviously not oen of their models, lol, but here is the kicker, they went the extra step and marked the blade "titanium 440 steel" huh, lol, wow what a deal at like $8 I paid for it, hahahaha...
3rd) ok, now this one is about the closest thgin I have ever seen to the real deal in terms of looks and feel...they took a design for a $30 knife and made it into a $7 knife...Now this is scary because the quality is pretty close to the real one, lol, when you fake a benchmade you know its a fake, but when you start to fake lesser knives its harder to tell the dsifference, the onyl way I figured this one was a fake was because the markigns were wrogn (it does not have the smaller markings on the tang of the blade liek the real ones) and I noticed that on the real ones the scres match the camo finish, so if there is a black stripe across the screw area the screw will also be black, but not with this one...This is a hard one to detect....
4th) this oen is clearly marked Gerber, but this is a design I have never seen before by them...plus the quality reflects the fact its a $8 knife...which was the average price for these knives excluding the last one which was $12, the counterfeit benchmade...
5th) Ok this one makes me mad the most, because its representign a good knife compnay poorly, a fake SW or fake gerber is not as bad as this...now this one feels similar to the real one in size and weight, the textured G10 is identical...what gives this away is the poor fit and finish, the scales do not line up with the liners and it just feels rough in the hand...also, the serratiosn is another dead giveaway on this one...Im not sure if the 910 comes in combo edge off ahnd, but I do no those are not beenchmade serrations...the video does not show it well, but on the back it is marked 154cm...YEAH RIGHT, lol...the frotn logo is similar to benchmades, but to a veteran minute detaisl gives it away, like the size of USA, and the fact that the buterfly has antennas, but come on, to most people at 1st glance its legit...now the site I got it from showed the clip with the benchmade block letters like the real one, but this one came with a plain clip...Also, it came with a real benchmade box...so buyers beware, the box does not mean its real....
So I hope some of you learned a thing or two and now know what to look out for...there are plenty of other fakes out there, not copies Im talking about counterfeits...So beware...there were about 5 more knives on the site I got these from that were taken off from complaints, which is great! So when you see knives like these keep up the emails and letters! I know it seems hipocritical that I bought these and I am against them, but like I said I got them for examples to teach poeple about them...thats all...I also do this with Zippos, another hobby of mine is collectign zippos, and in the zippo world there are plenty of counterfeits as well...To me these are teachign tools, but like I said, please if you see them somewhere contact the companies they are representing and tell them where and when you saw them...
I will post pictures as soon as I can...
Please excuse any typos this thread may have, I tend to post without checking...
ok, I made a short video just showing each knife real quickly to give you a perspective on size a little and the markings...
http://s131.photobucket.com/player....p282/cutlerylover/IMGP0095.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1
1st knife ) This knife looks to be a copy of the gerber air ranger, although it is marked smith and wesson, I know this is a fake just by the design, no other marking sare found on the knife...
2nd) ok, now this oen is crazy, lol, 1st off it has a big R on the pivot screw...is this suppose to be representign chris reeve? thats what I thought when I 1st saw it, but maybe I am strange, lol...then you have some other markihns on the handle, I saw the MT to be maybe missrepresentign microtech? Obviously these are not logos, but im my eyes poor atempts to give away some kind of false representation of the knife...Ok, now again the smith and wesson logo, but this is obviously not oen of their models, lol, but here is the kicker, they went the extra step and marked the blade "titanium 440 steel" huh, lol, wow what a deal at like $8 I paid for it, hahahaha...
3rd) ok, now this one is about the closest thgin I have ever seen to the real deal in terms of looks and feel...they took a design for a $30 knife and made it into a $7 knife...Now this is scary because the quality is pretty close to the real one, lol, when you fake a benchmade you know its a fake, but when you start to fake lesser knives its harder to tell the dsifference, the onyl way I figured this one was a fake was because the markigns were wrogn (it does not have the smaller markings on the tang of the blade liek the real ones) and I noticed that on the real ones the scres match the camo finish, so if there is a black stripe across the screw area the screw will also be black, but not with this one...This is a hard one to detect....
4th) this oen is clearly marked Gerber, but this is a design I have never seen before by them...plus the quality reflects the fact its a $8 knife...which was the average price for these knives excluding the last one which was $12, the counterfeit benchmade...
5th) Ok this one makes me mad the most, because its representign a good knife compnay poorly, a fake SW or fake gerber is not as bad as this...now this one feels similar to the real one in size and weight, the textured G10 is identical...what gives this away is the poor fit and finish, the scales do not line up with the liners and it just feels rough in the hand...also, the serratiosn is another dead giveaway on this one...Im not sure if the 910 comes in combo edge off ahnd, but I do no those are not beenchmade serrations...the video does not show it well, but on the back it is marked 154cm...YEAH RIGHT, lol...the frotn logo is similar to benchmades, but to a veteran minute detaisl gives it away, like the size of USA, and the fact that the buterfly has antennas, but come on, to most people at 1st glance its legit...now the site I got it from showed the clip with the benchmade block letters like the real one, but this one came with a plain clip...Also, it came with a real benchmade box...so buyers beware, the box does not mean its real....
So I hope some of you learned a thing or two and now know what to look out for...there are plenty of other fakes out there, not copies Im talking about counterfeits...So beware...there were about 5 more knives on the site I got these from that were taken off from complaints, which is great! So when you see knives like these keep up the emails and letters! I know it seems hipocritical that I bought these and I am against them, but like I said I got them for examples to teach poeple about them...thats all...I also do this with Zippos, another hobby of mine is collectign zippos, and in the zippo world there are plenty of counterfeits as well...To me these are teachign tools, but like I said, please if you see them somewhere contact the companies they are representing and tell them where and when you saw them...
I will post pictures as soon as I can...
Please excuse any typos this thread may have, I tend to post without checking...
