Couple of friction folders.

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I've now been using a couple of friction folders in my great experiment. I'm not really sure what exactly the experiment is about, other than I seem drawn to the most simple tool in my 'older' years. I've always lie the old time traditional stuff, which is why I don't even own a gun that would not look at home in a Tom Selleck western or Humphrey Bogart noir film. My knives usually went the same way. So I've been happily slicing and dicing with my little Pattadese and for a week now with 'The Turk.' I've come to calling it that for lack of a better name. Jon, (Kllneh) had the great give away, and I came into possession of the Turk.

I figured since it was a product of some Turkish working man, I'd pose it with a hand carved Meershaum pipe from Turkey that delivers a nice smooth smoke. The knife in not as smooth as the pipe, but that's all part of the character. It's a bit rough in workmanship, but then the sum total of a knife is in how it cuts. It does that! The blade is thin. Thin as in a smaller Opinel or kitchen paring knife. I touched it up on a silica stone and a leather strop, and now my thumb print shivers in terror if I go to feel the edge. I don't know what kind of carbon steel is used, it just came with a little slip of paper saying that it was hand forged by someone named Hasan. Hasan made a nice thin bladed little slicer. Hasan knows what makes a knife work. It goes right through carrot sticks, salami, and cordage like it's not there. The black goat horn handle fits the hand very nice. At least my hand. The upturn at the end makes a nice rest when I choke up on the blade for fine cutting. The surface of the goat horn is just rough enough that it makes for a good grip when hands are wet. It is not as pointy as the Sardinian knife, but it's more a matter of semantics as far as performance goes. A sharp knife is a sharp knife.

Both have been pocket carried, and both do an excellent job of every day pocket knife cutting job. Twine, mail, UPS boxes, slicing a quick snack off something in the fridge, whatever. But they are so different in nature you think there would be a big difference in performance. The Sardinian knife is like a lot of things from the Italian region. It has style, polish, and grace. Very fine finish. It's like a competent Italian guy in a nice tailored outfit from Milan's fashion stores, nice polished Gucci loafers, but he's a competent guy all the same. Just dressed well. The Turkish knife is just rough enough that it suggests the guy from the docks who may have shaved in the last week, down at the heels clothing work worn, but he's the guy you don't want to run into in some dark backstreet in Istanbul. Unless he's on your side. Two different knives, two very different approaches to a cutting tool. Both very competent at what they are supposed to do. Both have their own draw and attraction. Both will continue to see lots of time in my pocket.

Carl.

The slicer from the back streets of Istanbul.
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The Pattadese with a nice hand hand carved Caminetta pipe from Italy.
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Nice post Carl and two...well one nice looking knife :D

I understand the appeal of friction folders. I have my Svord Mini Peasant in the pocket again today, and I'll be toting the Tramundi tomorrow I reckon (thanks for the inspiration there). The beautiful simplicity of this style of knife speaks loud enough to me, that style or looks are not important (not that they aren't appreciated). What they speak is volumes of experience, tried and tested design, that just does what it needs, not fuss or fret, and dependably so.

Did you ever look into Mr Morris' work?
 
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Both are very nice. I love your comparisons to the different types of men. The description evokes images of many elders in my family who are/were well dressed, competent men.
 
I know it's not the focus of your post, but that Turkish pipe is fantastic!

Once upon a time, about 40 years ago, that pipe was as white as new fallen snow. But Meershaum, like a carbon steel blade, gets patina over time. More and faster the more you smoke it. This pipe has seen a lot of tobacco down through the bowl.

Carl.
 
... Meershaum, like a carbon steel blade, gets patina over time. More and faster the more you smoke it. ...

Carl.

ive read that back in the colonial period british officers would get meerschaum pipes and have their men take turns smoking it to develop the patina faster. dont know if its true or not.
cant decide which of those two knives i like better. lol
 
A pleasure to read Carl, and the photos are lovely to behold :thumbup:

Jack
 
Carl,
thanks for the thread; great read as always.
As for the two knives in question...I guess I don't need to say which one is my favourite... :rolleyes:

Fausto
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Nice post Carl and two...well one nice looking knife :D

I understand the appeal of friction folders. I have my Svord Mini Peasant in the pocket again today, and I'll be toting the Tramundi tomorrow I reckon (thanks for the inspiration there). The beautiful simplicity of this style of knife speaks loud enough to me, that style or looks are not important (not that they aren't appreciated). What they speak is volumes of experience, tried and tested design, that just does what it needs, not fuss or fret, and dependably so.

Did you ever look into Mr Morris' work?

Yes, as a matter of fact I did. Looks like a great using knife, but at this stage of my life I am more attracted to the natural horn and old time looks of these. I guess if I went for another friction folder, I'd try a Svord and refinish the wood handles. Although if I could get a Morris in wood or horn, it would be nice.

Carl.
 
Love the pipes! I'm tempted to move into smoking a pipe, from cigars. More socially acceptable.

The knives are nice, as well. Great way to characterize them!
 
Very nice! How do you like that Turkish folder? I was hoping you'd win it. Well, I was hoping I'd win it, but that you would if I didn't. ;)
That meerschaum is really gorgeous! Very well and gracefully aged. That beautiful deep color suggests that it's been a faithful companion for some years. Definitely carved meerschaum, and not the new-school pressed-powder kind. Classy! Looks great! :thumbup:
 
Very nice write up!! Glad you're digging the knife. I've been carrying my Opinel #6 for the past couple weeks, I might have to track down a Pattadese soon...

Here's a pic of Hasan the bladesmith in question at work...

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Very nice! How do you like that Turkish folder? I was hoping you'd win it. Well, I was hoping I'd win it, but that you would if I didn't. ;)
That meerschaum is really gorgeous! Very well and gracefully aged. That beautiful deep color suggests that it's been a faithful companion for some years. Definitely carved meerschaum, and not the new-school pressed-powder kind. Classy! Looks great! :thumbup:

I do love the Turkish knife. Like the Sardinian Pattadese and Opinel, it's just insanely light weight. It really disappears in a pocket. The blade is as thin as a boning/fillet knife, and gets scary sharp with very little effort. Slices through raw chicken or beef for a stir fry like it's magic. Same for three strand 1/2 inch wet hemp rope. Easy to pinch open with work gloves.

And yes, that pipe has been a steady evening companion for about 40 years. It has a deep bowl that will provide an hour and a half of slow smoking. I had never had a Meershaum pipe, and 40 years ago, I went to an archery shoot with Bill Moran. We were taking a break, and he was smoking a Meershaum, and I had a beat up no name brand briar. I admired Bill's pipe, and he asked if I had ever smoked a Meershaum. I told him that it was out of my budget at the time. The next time Bill and I shot together, he took that one out of a coat pocket and told me to take care of it. We had become friends through the mutual love of traditional archery and pipes. Bill was one of the best traditional archers I ever saw. We'd go to pipe shows in the area. When Bill was in the last stages of his cancer, he gave me his entire pipe collection. I smoke them in the evening and think of an old friend, and the great times we had shooting at the excelsior bales in back of his shop.

Carl.
 
Very nice write up!! Glad you're digging the knife. I've been carrying my Opinel #6 for the past couple weeks, I might have to track down a Pattadese soon...

Here's a pic of Hasan the bladesmith in question at work...

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Thank you, Jon!!!

I love having a pic of the man himself. I'm saving it to my photo section. :thumbup:

Carl.
 
Very interesting thoughts. Those are both grand examples of very "ethnic" friction folders . I for one have developed a bit of interest in not only traditional, folding knives, but more primitive folders as well, okay, maybe not primitive, but older than the stuff that my generation considers "traditional". Started off with a Svord Peasant, now I'd like an 1890, Opinel repro. It's a backwards progression.
 
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