CPAP - Sleep Apnea Machine

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So I did the Sleep test, they said I didn't have sleep apnea, just gave me Lunesta. The reason was that the hibernating snoring bear next door kept me up all night so I never did fall asleep. My insurance will pay for the machine, but that means I have to go through the whole testing procedure again. I am at the point I just want to buy the freaking machine out of pocket and get to the healing. Living with sleep apnea is like living a life in which you are most of the day in daze, short tempered, and can't remember crap!

I would love to hear some of your sleep apnea success stories, and also where can i get one used or new cheap. Help Please!

Ryan
 
If you snore loudly at night and wake up feeling like you have a hangover or you wake up repeatedly during the night feeling like you are suffocating, then you have the symptoms of sleep apnea. You could also have a deviated septum that is causing breathing problems at night.

Check out cpap.com for pricing and available units. I don't know whether it would be a good idea to buy one if you don't actually need one. You should probably consult with your doctor.
 
I went through the testing, got the machine, but honestly I could never get used to it. Just recently I got the TAP dental appliance and it seems to be working. It's a plastic bite plate you put in your mouth and it brings your jaw forward a bit. It's adjustable and after a few nights you're used to it. It's easier to travel with than a whole CPAP machine, too :)

They cost about $900 to have made but insurance will usually cover it.

They're also really good at stopping snoring if that's your only problem.

My apnea was moderate at 26 events per hour.
 
Here some useful information I received from one of the kind moderators of the sleep apnea forum support group.

Well, first the second sleep study (called the titration study) has to determine what type of machine you need. The study may also determine whether or not you are a mouth breather. They don't always determine that, but if it's obvious, they will likely test you with a full face mask, covers the nose and mouth. They typically start testing you with a nasal mask (covers only the nose), then if there are other problems, they may try a different type. If you have any significant problems using the mask they test you with, tell them, maybe they can try a different one.

Most people are prescribed a straight cpap machine. But there are times when they might decide to prescribe something called a bipap, or maybe even an auto cpap. Bipaps (also called a bilevel machine) are typically used for those who require higher pressures or have some other problems. An auto cpap is rarely recommended, only if there are difficulties in determining a pressure. But most likely you will be prescribed with a straight cpap.

The doctor writes the prescription, after the second sleep study. Hopefully he will talk to you about it first, but you never know. And the process varies depending on your insurance. They may send you to a local DME (durable medical equipment store) to get your equipment. My insurance sucked, they only paid for equipment provided by one out-of-town company and my equipment was sent to me. But most get theirs through a local equipment store.

The DMEs usually tell you that you need the basic model. Ask about the others. There are things to consider when getting a machine, things I wish I knew about when I got mine. Some have other features and your insurance may not cover the cost of a more expensive model, don't know. But some have something called c-flex (called something else in another brand, forget the name) which offers a kind of relief for exhale that many people find is comfortable.

Also, different models record different things. All of them I believe record compliance, there's a computer card in the machine that records data that the DME can read. Some basic models only record compliance (how often you use it, how many hours). Some machines record more data than that, like how many apneas you are experiencing, how bad of a mask leak you are having. If that info matters to you, you might want to ask about it.

As to masks, first you need to know if a nose-only mask is all you need. Perhaps your sleep study will determine that. If you use a nose-only mask, there are more options, such as nasal mask, or nasal pillows (they are small short insertions into your nostrils, not over the nose). Ask to try different ones. Also, ask what is their exchange or return policy, if they have one. Also, ask how often will your insurance pay for a new mask. They always check with your insurance, so they will know. Insurance companies will typically pay for a new mask after 6 months, for some even after 3 months.

You might also ask the process, if they want you to rent to own. Many do that (mine didn't, my insurance paid for it outright). That might be a good idea if they push that, for it gives you an easier opportunity to switch machines should you need to (not likely but it happens). If you are told you are a mouth breather and need a full face mask, there are fewer options, so be sure to ask to see all the available ones. And you might want to review our mask section for people's thoughts on different masks. The hybrid is a new mask, and insurance may not pay for all of it because it's expensive. It's a new type, for it is a combination full face mask and nasal pillows. It covers the mouth, and has the little nasal pillows that rest inside your nostrils. Some people feel a little claustrophobic with a full face mask that covers both the nose and the mouth, but many do just fine with that.

Oh, you should have a heated humidifier. They are typically provided, but look for that. Often the doc has to include it in the prescription in order for insurance to cover the cost. And be sure it's a heated humidifier, not just a cool passover kind. The heated humidifier can be used both ways, and it's best to have the option.

Gosh, I've given you a lot to think about, sorry. I've sure rambled on and on. Let me know if you have questions.
 
The nose masks feel real comfortable when you first put them on. After a few minutes the mask feels like it's going to go through your face. I never could get used to this type of mask.

Paul
 
I have used a regular CPAP since 1988 and it has made a HUGE difference. I almost wrecked a car because I fell asleep at the wheel. I stpped driving long distances after that until I was confident that I was recovered. This is a much more common occurance than most people realize, according to my doctor. Many of those "unexplained" accidents are the result of sleep apnea, according to him. I once fell asleep at a Redskins game. if you have ever been to ne, you will understand just how bad that is. I have a friend who fell asleep while making love to his wife! He never could adequately explain that to her and it cost him his marriage.

BTW, I also have restless leg syndrome and that also will keep you from sleeping properly.

The real test as to whether you are getting the proper sleep is whether you have dreams. In order to dream, you must get into REM sleep, the deepest level. Sleep apnea and restless leg will keep you from getting there.
 
So I did the Sleep test, they said I didn't have sleep apnea, just gave me Lunesta. The reason was that the hibernating snoring bear next door kept me up all night so I never did fall asleep. My insurance will pay for the machine, but that means I have to go through the whole testing procedure again. I am at the point I just want to buy the freaking machine out of pocket and get to the healing. Living with sleep apnea is like living a life in which you are most of the day in daze, short tempered, and can't remember crap!

I would love to hear some of your sleep apnea success stories, and also where can i get one used or new cheap. Help Please!

Ryan


I have Blue Cross Blue Shield federal, they are paying for my machine and accessories, and I rarely use it. I don't know whats keeping me from using it. Anyway, when I did use it, I got a great nights sleep. At first. After a while, what with the mask coming undone, and blowing air at my eye, and then waking up at 3 in the morning, ripping the mask off and sleeping for the rest of the night without it, to just dreading putting it on before I went to sleep, I hate the thing. But, I get atrial fibrillation when I don't use it. I haven't gotten an episode, and, my dog sleeps at the foot of the bed, and woke me up recently at the start of an episode, but I can't rely on a dog to keep me alive. My biggest problem with sleep apnea is that I fall asleep coming home from work. Maybe for a second, but thats still dangerous when you're on a major highway. I sometimes have to pull over. Also, I'm a big guy. When I was on the CPAP, I didn't snack, didn't overeat etc. Who knows if it was the CPAP regulating my regimen? If you don't get the right mask, ask for a different one. One of my biggest gripes is being comfortable. I have Lincare, they take care of me. Ryan, for all of the complaints, I think your thread has kicked my ass in gear. I'll force myself to use it tonight.
 
I couldn't sleep with the damn machine running... and try to sleep while wearing a mask. wish I could. Looking forward to a shortened life span though:thumbup:
thank god for ambian
 
Well, its what happens during the day that scares me. Like falling asleep on a major highway, and the horn of the 18 wheeler behind you waking you up as you careen all over the highway.
 
I have very bad sleep apnea, and can't use the damned machine.

Ryan, go through the testing and get the thing through your insurance. Otherwise, if you need anything additional. like an O2 generator, you will have to pay out-of-pocket for that as well.

Bite the bullet, and reschedule.
 
I know I've had sleep apnea for many, many years and went to get tested about 3 years ago. The results came back negative. I couldnt fall asleep at the testing facility due to being in a strange bed with a million probes attached to my head and body.

I'd like to get retested but fear I'll have the same problems sleeping at the facility. Any suggestions?

Also, I'm a mouth breather, do they make masks for this?
 
I heard that wearing a dog collar or similar belt/garment like a wide strap of leather worn comfortably, loose not tight helps aline the neck to keep the breathing passage from kinking may help. To me this sounds uncomfortable like most of those sleep aid things.
 
I have very bad sleep apnea, and can't use the damned machine.

Ryan, go through the testing and get the thing through your insurance. Otherwise, if you need anything additional. like an O2 generator, you will have to pay out-of-pocket for that as well.

Bite the bullet, and reschedule.

Shaldag, have you tried one of the TAP appliances (dental)? I had trouble with a CPAP machine and switched to the dental appliance and have had a positive experience so far. I couldn't keep the cpap mask on for more than a couple hours, but find I can wear the dental appliance all night.

For the first time in my life I'm dreaming :)

The nice thing about the dental appliances is if you're traveling there's hardly anything to carry, as opposed to dragging that damned cpap machine, mask, etc. around.
 
Also, I'm a mouth breather, do they make masks for this?

They use a "full" face mask, though it only covers the triangle that forms from the bridge of the nose down to below the lower lip. That way, there's no pressure leak from your mouth and negate the positive pressure.
 
I had one bright spot in my apnea experience... apparently some of us have a weight threshold; the apnea doesn't kick in until we exceed a certain weight.
When I finally had enough sense (and determination)to drop some pounds, I put the nasal cpap back in its storage case and back in the closet. Haven't needed it in about two and a half years.

Many of my patients who come to me with depression and/or apathy turn out to have sleep apnea.

Feel free to email me

Doc
 
my life was living hell and I couldnt find out why. grouchy, lazy, confused, not fit for wolf bait. How the wife let me live is a testament to her sainthood.

Got tested, got a cpap at 15lbs pressure and sleep like a bay and now can do everything again. Still have weight issue that apnea made balloon up. Yes, it true. OSA can make you pack on the pounds.
 
I had a hard time finding a nose mask that would not leak, finally found a techie that knew what to do. She gave me a smaller mask than I would have chosen myself, this one does not ride up on my cheek bones and I can use it with very little strap tension.

Much more comfortable.

If it wasn't for Rade Hawkins telling me about CPAP I would probably never have heard about it.
 
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