CPM 420V?

The General

The General

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Are we ever likely to see a Spyderco knife in this steel? I hear a lot of very good things about it and it would likely be a great replacement for CPM 440V. Is it a lot more expensive to make/produce knives in this? Any chance of a spirit run of Militaries in this? CF if possible!

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Wayne.
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Just using 440V puts Spyderco out in front of almost all other manufacturers. I don't see how it can be classified as needing replacement. I don't know what percentage of Spydercos customer base is knife knuts, but would wager we comprise but a small, maybe tiny, portion. If other manufacturers are able to hornswoggle non-knuts that 420HC is a "premium surgical stainless steel" then how could one possibly expect them to understand why something with another steel is worth so much more?

I can't remember how tough 420V is, but if it is tougher than 440V, then it would be a bugger to sharpen. Sheeple who bought it would be unlikely to be able to keep an effective edge on it.

IMO Spyderco ought to be praised for how far they've already gone, instead of implying they're lagging behind the times.

Please don't perceive this as a rant, General. It is probably just my migraine talking.
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Bugs
 
I would NEVER suggest Spyderco are behind the times or are lacking in some way! Heck no! I admire them for giving us CPM 440V! Its just I would LIKE a CPM 420V knife without the custom price tag...
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Hint hint!

Sorry if it looked like I was having a 'pop' at my favourite knife company. I certainly was NOT!

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Wayne.
"To strive to seek to find and not to yield"
Tennyson
Ranger motto

A few useful details on UK laws and some nice reviews!
http://members.aol.com/knivesuk/
'in Spyderco I trust'
 
I think that every manufacturer that has experimented with CMP-420V has opted not to go with it. The extra costs of series production is just too high. Microtech was suppose to switch its entire collection of knives from 154CM to 420V, starting with the LCC DA, but after they made a few 420V prototypes (various models) those plans were quietly dropped.

I think that 420V will remain the sole domain of custom makers.
 
420V is supposed to be tougher than 440V. That really puts 420V out ahead. 440V's weakness seems to be lack of toughness, so it's either left a bit softer (and weaker), or left hard and chippable. 420V can be hardened enough to be strong, and still be tough. Unfortunately, as Carlos said, 440V is difficult to work in a production environment, 420V is supposed to be just way too difficult right now.


Joe
 
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cheers Sal! I hoped that such a leading edge company would try out this top end steel! It is great that you will give us mere mortals the chance to buy a knife in this steel without the custom price tag.

I am one happy camper if it ever happens.

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Wayne.
"To strive to seek to find and not to yield"
Tennyson
Ranger motto

A few useful details on UK laws and some nice reviews!
http://members.aol.com/knivesuk/
'in Spyderco I trust'
 
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