CQC-8, changes on different years?

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I'm curious to know what, if any, differences there are between CQC-8 knives from different years. I may end up buying one from a pawn shop, and want to know if there's any advantage to paying more for a more recent version.
 
The more recent models will have a larger Wave as that has evolved over the years. Liners are thicker too thus a stronger handle and lockbar. If it's really old, then it will have titanium for both liners. Modern ones have a steel liner for the nonlock side. I think that's it.
 
I can't say with 100% certainty, but I have a 2011 UBR Commander with the thinner liners. So it was at least around then, but EmersonREP will be able to give a definitive answer.
 
I have had the Mini (Horseman) with the smaller "nub" wave and the newer "full" wave, but have yet to see a full size 8 with the newer "full" wave.
 
I stand corrected. OM is right being that the wave hasn't changed from what I reseached this morning or it was so subtle that I can't tell from the pictures. I would recommend a 2014 as they would have the thickest liners possible. The 2013 might be the same but I am not sure. The 2011 has a thinner set of liners with the nonlock steel liner noticeably thiner than the titanium locking liner. Current liners for that size knife would be @.067" for the titanium locking liner and @.060" for the nonlock liner from my measurements. The steel nonlock liner is stainless if you didn't know.
 
Well everything made after 2012 will have standoffs instead of backspacers. And everything made after 2011 has a larger slot in the pivot screw that can fit a dime which is really convenient.
 
Aside from hardware changes, the old ones (~2004) were waveless, had a longer swedge, and had radiused G10. Here's my Surefire 8.

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From an aesthetic standpoint, I much prefer older 8's, but functionally I think they're equally good.
 
Thanks everyone for the info.

One question for clarification...
BenLong1018 said:
Well everything made after 2012 will have standoffs instead of backspacers. And everything made after 2011 has a larger slot in the pivot screw that can fit a dime which is really convenient.
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When you say "after 2012" do you mean that literally, as in 2013 and up? Or do you mean including 2012 as well?

Also, I'm going to try to look up the difference between standoffs and backspacers... Forgive me, when it comes to the technical jargon of knives, I'm a novice... But if you can explain it while I do my own research, I'd appreciate it. Are standoffs preferable?
 
JJR512 said:
Thanks everyone for the info.

One question for clarification...


When you say "after 2012" do you mean that literally, as in 2013 and up? Or do you mean including 2012 as well?

Also, I'm going to try to look up the difference between standoffs and backspacers... Forgive me, when it comes to the technical jargon of knives, I'm a novice... But if you can explain it while I do my own research, I'd appreciate it. Are standoffs preferable?
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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear I meant 2012 and after.

This knife has standoffs:
http://www.gpknives.com/brands/emersonknives/emersonknivesbulldogstonewashplainedgeblade.html

And backspacers are just a single piece of G10.
 
On backspacer knives, the threads are in the opposite liner, while on standoff models, the liners are unthreaded and the standoffs are threaded. On the standoff models their are shorter screws from both liners in each hole location.
 
Thanks...

Looking at the photos in the link, in particular the last thumbnail, I'm pretty sure I understand what standoffs are now. I kind of thought I knew, as I'm familiar with the term from electronics, where a standoff is used to mount something away from a surface. For example, a motherboard mounts to standoffs that are attached to the case, to provide separation from the bottom of the motherboard and the case, to prevent shorts.

So backspacers, which you say is a single piece of G10...on some knives, I've seen the space between the two liners filled with a block of material, like the plastic or G10 of the scales. Is that what a backspacer is? Material used as filler between the liners?

If I'm understanding the difference correctly, I don't really see what the practical difference is. I mean I don't understand why some people insist one is better than the other, as I've seen happen in another thread I found here while researching this myself.
 
Yes, that is an example of a back spacer. Emerson back spacers are situated near the back of the handle
 
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