Hi,
I'm new to this forum and am joining to get some opinions on these features on the CQC7. My training thus far in knife fighting is the style taught that evolved from Arnis, with Japanese influence, implying that it relies heavily on slashing and less so on stabbing. I have decided to invest in a good knife to carry around, and the CQC7 became my primary choice, for the acute angle on their tanto blades (as opposed to the more obtuse angle on Microtech's SOCOM), the price, and feild-strippability. The things that concern me about this knife are the chisel point and thumbdisc.
What I would like are opinions on the following: As I reason, a chisel ground point is not going to be _sharper_, per se than a traditionally ground edge. Its going to be simpler to sharpen, but that is beside the point since I don't plan to use this knife for utility purposes. As I see it, a chisel ground edge, in effect, shifts the effective angle of the blade by a certain number of degrees, ie if I slash at a surface and the plane of the blade is perpendicular to that surface, the effective cutting angle will be offset. Afterall, only sharpening one edge fo the blade makes the exact same edge profile, just pointing in a different direction. It seems to me that this would give you an advatage when slashing in one direction, and a disadvantage when slashing in the opposite direction. If said knife is slashing at a non-square angle from a surface, and the ground edge is at an acute angle from the surface, then it seems the knife would act like a snow ski, arcing up and away from the cutting plane and decreasing effectiveness. Reverse that, where the ground edge is at an obtuse angle, and you are now at a blade offset where the effective cutting angle is closer to 90 degrees, and it seems you have an advantage. Has anyone found this to be true? False? Of any consequence at all?
Forgive me if I'm just rehashing old arguments, but if a chisel edge actually does represent an effective offset of the cutting angle, that means that no matter how you slash, less than %100 of the force generated by your arm will be put into pushing the blade foreward, and a portion will always be used for generating a moment (torque) along the axis of the knife.
If it has been peoples opinion that the chisel point is not ideal, does Emerson make a standard grind? Do the Benchmade clones have the exact same secondary blade angle that the Emersons do?
Also, whats this frequent complaint about the thumb disc? Is that really all that annoying? If so, is it kept in with a screw, or a rivet, or a weld? If its kept in with a screw, can you tap ATS-34 steel, so as to move the damned thing enough for it to be comftorble?
Any help is greatly appriciated.
H Vasdo.
I'm new to this forum and am joining to get some opinions on these features on the CQC7. My training thus far in knife fighting is the style taught that evolved from Arnis, with Japanese influence, implying that it relies heavily on slashing and less so on stabbing. I have decided to invest in a good knife to carry around, and the CQC7 became my primary choice, for the acute angle on their tanto blades (as opposed to the more obtuse angle on Microtech's SOCOM), the price, and feild-strippability. The things that concern me about this knife are the chisel point and thumbdisc.
What I would like are opinions on the following: As I reason, a chisel ground point is not going to be _sharper_, per se than a traditionally ground edge. Its going to be simpler to sharpen, but that is beside the point since I don't plan to use this knife for utility purposes. As I see it, a chisel ground edge, in effect, shifts the effective angle of the blade by a certain number of degrees, ie if I slash at a surface and the plane of the blade is perpendicular to that surface, the effective cutting angle will be offset. Afterall, only sharpening one edge fo the blade makes the exact same edge profile, just pointing in a different direction. It seems to me that this would give you an advatage when slashing in one direction, and a disadvantage when slashing in the opposite direction. If said knife is slashing at a non-square angle from a surface, and the ground edge is at an acute angle from the surface, then it seems the knife would act like a snow ski, arcing up and away from the cutting plane and decreasing effectiveness. Reverse that, where the ground edge is at an obtuse angle, and you are now at a blade offset where the effective cutting angle is closer to 90 degrees, and it seems you have an advantage. Has anyone found this to be true? False? Of any consequence at all?
Forgive me if I'm just rehashing old arguments, but if a chisel edge actually does represent an effective offset of the cutting angle, that means that no matter how you slash, less than %100 of the force generated by your arm will be put into pushing the blade foreward, and a portion will always be used for generating a moment (torque) along the axis of the knife.
If it has been peoples opinion that the chisel point is not ideal, does Emerson make a standard grind? Do the Benchmade clones have the exact same secondary blade angle that the Emersons do?
Also, whats this frequent complaint about the thumb disc? Is that really all that annoying? If so, is it kept in with a screw, or a rivet, or a weld? If its kept in with a screw, can you tap ATS-34 steel, so as to move the damned thing enough for it to be comftorble?
Any help is greatly appriciated.
H Vasdo.