Cqc7

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Well I have during the past few weeks/month traded for a couple of CQC7's. I think that this may be the best designed EKI made. Just my opinion of course.

Problem with them though is that I couldn't get them as sharp as I wanted. As some of you may or may not know I took a CE one down to a prof. sharpener to have it sharpened. Kind of bummed when he handed it back to me as the there were some bright spots on the blade at the plunge just above the cantle. That and the canlte was wider than when I gave it to him. It is almost as wide as the serrations. Cosmetics only though. He told me now it is a true chisel grind. Didn't say much but paid and left. Hey he is around 80 yrs old. Well needless to say it was serendipitous to say the least. The thing is beyond sharp and stays that way. A lite touch up on a white hard stone just a couple of pushes restores the edge.

Recieved the second one a week or so ago. Black blade and scales etc etc. Well this was a home made V grind special. Lost as near as I can figure not quite .125" of tip when the fella did it. It came with a tech lok sheath and that is kind of cool as it really holds the knife well and doesn't wear on you pants pockets. Try as I might though I just couldn't get the edge to anywhere near sharp. So off I go to the same shop. This time the fella's son is there. He looks at it and I explain to him that it isn't originally the way it was ground but I can't get it sharp so do your best. He brings it back about 10 minutes late and voila. A true double ground blade that has a very very sharp point that easily pierces pretty much anything. Helluva of it is though is that is still looks thick on the point. So it is tough to boot. Not only that but like the one above it cuts like a lazer. He also says that I shouldn't have a problem with sharpening now as both cantels are the same etc. etc. If I do dull it bring it back and he will sharpen it for free.

I guess my whole point to this diatribe is that if this fella's shop can put an edge on these knives like they should be why doesn't EKI do it in the first place? I mean these things cut. No doubt about it and the edges are still very robust as well. Anyways just a rant. I know we all like to have our tools as sharp as possible and it always bugged me that being "the number 1 hard use knives in the world", they were so hard to keep sharp especially in the field. They were hard for me to get sharp for that matter. I will say that now that they are like they are they are quickly taking the place of my smaller edc's I have been carrying because I can get them so sharp. This little black one is one nice ergonomic little package especially the handle. Any comments? Keep'em sharp
 
Hey I have the same problem with my EKI's. I have 2 CQC7's and have tried like hell to get them as sharp as I want to no avail. EKI hasn't done it either when I sent them in for a touch up. I know it's not me because I can get my other knives razor sharp. I have a Spyderco Military that I just resharpened and it will damn near split a hair. What is this guys name and address that did the job on your blades? I would like to contact him and see if I could send mine to him. Are his prices resonable? Could you PM or email me with the info? Sounds like what I have been looking for.

Thanks
 
The name of the shop is Rochester Hollow Grinder. Don't have access to a phone book at the moment but information should be able to find it for you. It is on Stutson street in Rochester NY. The place sharpens everything that can be sharpened. Best thing I ever did for the EKI's I own. This black CQC7 I call a SLF(stout little f--ker) as it is indeed robust and extremely sharp. The edges are tough too not in any way ground to thin or burned for loosing the temper. I could probably get them sharper as in thinner edged but they pop hair now and the CE has stayed that way as that has been used the most. Not only that but the CE does not wander off when cutting soft things like tomatoes. Goes straight through with nary a problem and cuts nice thin shavings off hard wood pretty darn easily.

Now as a caveat to all of this I also have a CE Raven that I recieved much sharper than the above CQC's before they were sharpened. I have the Raven now as sharp as the CQC's and I did that on my own using a med and fine stone. Just widened the cantle a bit on it voila hair flinging sharp. A very much underrated folder. Very good lock up with a thicker liner lock. Nicely polished liners recessed within the handle too. Scales of whatever they are afford a very good grip no matter wet or dry. Opens like a dream. The CQC's you have to want to open them. Not nearly as smooth but then again that ain't neccessarily a bad thing. Now to get an uwaved Commander. Hey anyone want to trade one for an extra S2K I have? Keep'em sharp
 
longbow, could you post pictures of both CQC7s you've sharpened? I'd like to see what you mean....can't really visualise it...thanks
 
I have not owned very many Emerson knives (5) but every one I have owned has come SHARP. Even the chiesel ground ones. For all I know, I just got lucky! Who knows...

It's not hard to get a chiesel ground edge sharp if you know how. To get mine sharp I just strop it straight backwards on the side that's ground on 220 SiC paper about 40 times, strop the other side about 6 times to remove the burr, then alternate 3 to 1 for about 4 cycles. (3 strops on the ground side to 1 strop on the opposite side). Then I move up to 320 and do pretty much the same thing but with fewer repetitions (you really have to just have a feel for it). Next do the same process on 400 grit, and if you REALLY want it sharp do it again on 600 grit. If you did it right the edge will look bright and shiny for sure, and will absolutely pop the hair off your arm! Sometimes after that, I'll strop it on a loaded leather strop just to shine up the edge to a mirror polish.

Chiesel ground edges take a little practice to get right, but once you know how to sharpen them it's no big deal. I can actually get my chiesel ground knives VERY sharp! I had to practice a lot though, and I had a LOT of practice before that (about 12 years worth) sharpening regular edges. If you are just learning to sharpen a chiesel ground edge for yourself, go get some "el chaepos" from your local flea market to practice on before you move on to your good knives. With enough practice you'll get there.

By the way, if the guy you go to locally does a good job and uses a sharpening method that won't destroy the temper of the blade, I'd say more power to ya! Just make sure they aren't burning the temper out of your blades.
 
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