Craftsman; 4 pin LB7 ?

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i don't want to wait the 3 or more weeks it takes to receive a knife from USA, so here is the ebay link to 2 Schrade (?) knives: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160177190379&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006
hopefully i am correct that this is an LB7, 4 pin. 78 is visible on tang below eagle, so maybe it says 1978 ?, making it the first year Craftsman could have had an LB7. BUT, i haven't seen a Schrade with A.C.A.(anvil logo)EDGE etch.
so, any help here ? and what about the Barlow, is it a Schrade ? (sometimes i get carried away and buy stuff that isn't at all what i think it is, but if it's a knife, i'm happy regardless) roland
 
now that i no longer have a 2 yr. old on my lap, i have pulled out numerous 4 pin LB7s, a Buck 110 and a Sears Camillus LB. i now think the knife i just bought most resembles the Camillus, but i still don't know about the ACA EDGE etch. roland
 
I think the 78 is part of the model number. And the front bolster, makes it look like a Buck. I'm sure someone will know more than I do on this.
 
G'Day Ronnie,I see you're on line mate,thanks for registering me as a Gold Member and I notice you are still headed Registered member....all you have to do is click on Gold Member in the appropriate section and bingo! I'm still learning how to donsize my photos from 2816x2112 to the maximum 800x600 allowed. Trust this is not hijacking the thread. Hoo Roo
 
rprocter said:
i don't want to wait the 3 or more weeks it takes to receive a knife from USA, so here is the ebay link to 2 Schrade (?) knives: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160177190379&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006
hopefully i am correct that this is an LB7, 4 pin. 78 is visible on tang below eagle, so maybe it says 1978 ?, making it the first year Craftsman could have had an LB7. BUT, i haven't seen a Schrade with A.C.A.(anvil logo)EDGE etch.
so, any help here ? and what about the Barlow, is it a Schrade ? (sometimes i get carried away and buy stuff that isn't at all what i think it is, but if it's a knife, i'm happy regardless) roland
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A.C.A. (Anvil) EDGE was a Sears trademark and not used exclusively on Schrade products made for Sears. I do have quite a few Sears Schrades with this etch though. It was pointed out to us by Arnold that on the Sears paperwork, the A.C.A. referred to "Amazing Cutting Action". This was likely just "Sears-speak" for the type of edge finish required from their suppliers on their SFO knives.

IMHO, the lockback in the auction is a Camillus #9 and not a Schrade. The eagle tangstamp seems to indicate that it was sold as a part of Sears "American Eagle" series of knives begun in the early 1970's and continued through at least the 1980's. The actual Sears model numbers for any given pattern of folding and sheath knives was subject to change over time. In my 1993 Sears catalog, this pattern is numbered 95416.

We went over this one with illustrations in this thread from early this year:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368350&highlight=Craftsman

Michael
 
my apologies for this thread as it is not a Schrade. i should have realized that prior to bidding as i do recall the link you posted. ebay shopping combined with child care has lead me to previous errors as well.
it does bring up a question though: some knives are branded as Craftsman and others as Sears. does this difference in branding imply any difference in quality or likelihood of Schrade being the manufacturer ?
i alreay have a Camillus #9 with tang: Sears/Stainless/U.S.A. 95416 and now another Camillus #9 with Craftsman tang stamp and a different number.
perhaps this post should be moved to Camillus forum. roland
 
Your question was legitimate. And Camillus knives are good knives, also with a kinship to Schrade via the Baer family. I don't see any great error here.

Codger ;)
 
thank you Codger, that makes me feel better. i do take this forum seriously, but am still making identification errors i think i shouldn't. roland
 
Roland, we all do. I have taken quite a bashing on this and other forums, via email and even been "stalked" on eBay by people who take humbrage at my "status as an expert", something I have never claimed and in fact repeatedly denied. IMHO, the only "experts" on Imperial Schrade and the cutlery they produced are the people who made them or caused them to be made. The best any of us can do is to try to ferret out the details as best we can until one of those experts comes along to give us the straight and skinny.

Comparing examples of actual knives, catalogs, advertisements, and using the wonderful resource Mr. Vickery has created for us to use and enjoy are our best shots at keeping it all straight in our minds and in our collections.

I genuinely look forward to the release of Mr. Voyles upcoming book on Schrade knives. While I personally give little credence to most "price guides" because prices are so fluid and change so rapidly, this promises to be of value simply because it will be the first major work dedicated to the subject of Schrade knives, and done by an efficient, knowledgable professional cutlery author.

As we all know, prior to 2004, Imperial Schrade was for the most part considered a "red-headed-stepchild" among collectors, and drew very little ink in collector guides. This has changed in the past four years and Schrades (Imperials Kingstons, Ulsters, Camillus) have gained the attention of the knife collecting world. Pity that the cost for this was the demise of the Baer empire.

Michael
 
Well said Michael.I too look forward to Mr. Voyles book as well as yours on the different Schrades.Arnold
 
Michael, i do not if you are planning a book, but your many clear, informative posts on the Schrade companies, their history, connections, and principals, as well as the history of individual knife patterns, could be collated into a most useful book. please sign me up for an autographed copy. roland
 
My grandfather he is 79 and he gave me a Sears knife that he was given when he became a manager in the automotive department with Sears stainless u.s.a 95416 I was wondering how old this knife is
 
Joshua Brandenburg said:
My grandfather he is 79 and he gave me a Sears knife that he was given when he became a manager in the automotive department with Sears stainless u.s.a 95416 I was wondering how old this knife is
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Schrade made some of these and also Camillus. 4-pin makes me guess late '70s to early '80s. Please post a picture of the knife for a more accurate assessment.
 
As we all know, prior to 2004, Imperial Schrade was for the most part considered a "red-headed-stepchild" among collectors, and drew very little ink in collector guides. This has changed in the past four years and Schrades (Imperials Kingstons, Ulsters, Camillus) have gained the attention of the knife collecting world. Pity that the cost for this was the demise of the Baer empire.

Michael[/QUOTE]
you know having carried a Schrade from 1978 onward (LB7) i never considered them that stepchild but a good useful fit in my back pocket perfect knife. So glad i started collecting before they went out of business. Course now if a package arrives at the house i hear "did you get another knife?"
 
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