Crappy Stones?

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sevenedges

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I was at a buddies house yesterday and he had a SAK knife lying next to one of those double sided stones that are super rough on one side, and rough on the other. He said it cost one dollar at a flea market but he only paid .75 cents for it. (a little negotiating:D ) I used it on his SAK and it went from (REALLY) dull to shaving sharp in a matter of a minute. I don't think I could have done that with my array of DMT stones. I know the SAK knives are fairly soft, Plus I think this was a knock off. I didn't even pay attention. But that thing ate some fresh metal really fast a couple licks on coarse side then the fine side and it was popping hairs. Much like a post I saw here somewhere on the forums not too long ago, where a guy using a crappy stone and a coffee cup to de-burr got his shaving sharp. Anyway it doesn't really matter what kind of stones you have, as long as your sreel is soft enough and they are flat. One problem I encountered with his stone. It was uneven (visibly uneven) I counteracted it by pivoting the blade a little differently than I would on a DMT sharpener to stay on the most level part of the stone. Later,
Jeff
 
I bought two of these stones at a dollar store (88 cent store actually). I rub them together before each sharpening, and I'm good to go. Whenever I'm reprofiling, or I have a lot of sharpening to do, I go for those cheap stones then a few minutes on a fine Spyderco ceramic stone. They cut anything, S30V and D2 included. I just reprofiled my RAT-3 on them a few days ago. You can't go wrong with an abrasive that is designed to be cut away. BTW, the cheapes strop you can get is on your leg, try stropping your knife on a pair of jeans you are wearing, it does a great job.
 
Seven,
Does it look like these?

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I assume these are silicon carbide (often known by the trademark carborundum). What does a $100DMT do that these won't do? :confused:
 
hardheart said:
not dish out while you are sharpening
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I'll agree Hard but I guess it's a matter of magnitude and experience. If you know how to flatten a dished stone and have the time and inclination to do it then the $1 stone may be a practical expense. I have both but still prefer my diamond stone ... ;)
 
matt321 said:
Seven,
Does it look like these?

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eye got one of those. or atleast a similar one, its al-ox, blue and light blue color, they gum up very very fast, mine wasnt even flat, its useless since there is no way to clean it (and believe me ive tried) even if there was a good way to clean it i wouldnt use it, i mean i got a SM now.
 
I have several of these from the $.99 Store. They work fine. I tend to use them dry, simply because I found oil offers no practical advantage, and just makes for more maintenance. A couple I lap against each other to keep flat, but the one with the dished out surface works OK , too. I'm strictly freehand. The coarse side is good for stock removal. The fine side is OK, but not quite fine enough for my taste. So after the stone, I move on to 800+ sandpaper.
 
I use mine dry, so no gumming. If you lean into them they remove mucho material. If I lean into my DMT's the diamonds get pulled out. :confused:
 
Just be aware that not all 1 dollar fleamarket hones are the same. I have one very large one that is medium/fine (black) on one side, and Coarse (green) on the other. The black side cuts fairly well but dishes out fast and has problems with loading. The Coarse side on the other hand can't cut much of anything. Only when freshly graded with a slab of rough concrete will it cut anything, and anything harder than 56 rc or so just skates across the surface.
 
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