Critique my kit.

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Hello all

Have a bit of a request. I've finally combined my PSK into what I think is a pretty good and usable kit. I was hoping that some of you would chime in with a bit of a constructive critique.

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This is my PSK
1. 20' hank of OD paracord, 12' hank of black paracord, 7' hank of OD paracord.
2. small skillet from French mess kit. The larger skillet and the plate are part of my BOB.
3. mosquito headnet. This is a holdover from living in AK where they were a necessity. Figured it would save my sanity if bugs were out plus could be used as a fishing net, or to hold fish in the river, or all sorts of other uses.
4. this is the pouch it all fits in. Found this at a local Army/Navy store for $4.50. Has belt loop on back.
5. Gerber diamond knife sharpener.
6. nail bent on one end and sharpened on both plus 50' of spiderwire spectra fishing line. The nail can be lashed to the end of a thik pole for a gig and the spiderwire can be used for snares, fishing, and shelter building.
7. fishing kit - hooks, split shot, 50' 12lb test mono, 50' of spiderwire, small orange cork float and such. The spiderwire can be used to rig a trot line.
8. start of a small med kit. currently has tylenol, immodium, benadryl, bandaids and couple of butterfly bandages. Needs a bit more.
9. my first compass - good ol' classic BSA model. Might replace this with a small keychain model as I almost always cary a bit better compass on me anyway when I'm in the woods and usually a GPS as well. Always have maps of the area to hopefully negate the need for all of this.
10. snake bite kit - most of my outdoor recreation is in the Appalachian snake pit.
11. Victorinox Tinker - love this knife and have had it for many years.
12. start of survival necklace. Currently led flashlight with button cell batteries in backwards and a Fox40 whistle.
13. sewing kit including couple of different size needles and black thread.
14. signal mirror
15. emergency blanket - will likely upgrade this with a bit better one down the road.
16. magnesim fire starter with hacksaw blade striker.
17. lighter - still need o-ring to put around this to make sure it doesn't leak when packed.
19. tinder. These are 1" pieces of cotton piping cord (stuff that makes the little round trim on couches and such) soaked in PJ and lighter fluid then sealed in duct-tape. Just cut a slit in the duct-tape, pick out some of the fibers and strike the flint rod. Will burn a long time.
19. waterproof paper and pencil. Like the pencil since it will write in the rain and doesn't age.

Here is the kit partially assembled.

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Most of the items are in a ziploc freezer bag and ride in the skillet. This, along with the rope, the bug net and the snake bite kit go in the main pocket while the knife, compass and survival necklace go in the front pocket. There is still a bit of room in both pockets and a wee bit inside the skillet.

Things I still want to add:
1. one of those short sharpies. As others have mentioned you can write details on a victim and they're great for leaving notes and such.
2. more med items - here is one area I'm definitely open for suggestions on.
3. 6" wood cutting sawzall blade for use as emergency saw.

Not pictured are my fixed blade knife, 4" spear point I made myself, fixed blade knife, any of a number of types, hiking staff (rarely go without one), Mountain Smith pack and bladder system.

Upgrades I still need to do:
1. Add some webbing on the sides of the bag so I can attach a shoulder strap. Will use 2 split rings (key rings) on each side since they have all sorts of uses and for a shoulder strap I will tie up a braided type of strap out of paracord or accessory cord as a means of carrying more rope. (I like lots of rope).
2. add a couple of scalpels. All sorts of uses for these.
3. upgrade to a good ferocium (sp?) rod since I find myself never using the magnesium as tinder.
4. different flashlight - this one is camo and has a green light. Want a brightly colored flashlight with a good white light.

And of course any suggestions I get here.

Thank you to all who respond. This is really a good learning place.

Charles
 
Overall I think this is a pretty good kit which has most of the basics covered.

My concerns are:

You're missing the survivors best friend - duct tape. Unbelievably useful stuff.

Water purification filter or tablets - boiling is the best method, but its worth carrying something as a backup.

The snakebite kit - to the best of my knowledge, these are no longer considered to be an appropriate treatment for snakebite. Scientific tests have shown that they remove an insignificant amount of venom from a wound. In Australia we are taught that treatment for snakebite involves immobilization of the limb and application of a firm, but not constricting, pressure bandage, and rapid transport to hospital for treatment with antivenin.

The medical kit - I'm assuming this is just a supplement to a proper first aid kit which you carry separately. On its own it would be far from sufficient for outdoor activities.

Dont see anything for use as an improvised shelter eg. a lightweight poncho. From what I hear, those emergency blankets tend to rip if used for shelter purposes.

I think your upgrades sound good - in particular a good flashlight, a firesteel, and a saw. Perhaps add some more tinder and some more paper, and a second whistle. I like to carry a red permanent marker for highly visible marking of injury victims or other things.

Other than that it seems to be a pretty well thought out kit.
 
If you do some research on Dr Fred Klenner and his son - they have extensive use of vitamin C as a powerfull detoxifier and have saved many lives with it .Snake bites and insect bites can be treated well.Normally you would use injections but in the field tablets can be used .Then get to a doctor !!.....There are lots of good flashlights out there .But LEDs come in various sizes so think how much light you will need and for how long ....I could never understand why a pencil and paper !
 
Nice kit.

I didn't see:
Aluminum Foil
Waxed paper

I have something similar. I filled the little spaces left over inside the mess kit with dry cotton balls.
 
Dump the snakebite kit- as others have mentioned, they are basically worthless.

Don't downgrade your compass.

For the flashlight, in this size of kit, I like the Gerber Infinity or it's little brother that uses AAAs. Inexpensive, good battery life, decently bright. The Photon-type lights are similiar in brightness, but IMHO the difficulty in changing the battery rules them out.

When you upgrade your blanket, look at the AMK offerings- much more useful.

What I don't see:
Aluminum foil, very useful, very versatile.
Duct tape
Wire
A couple zip ties
A couple small screw eyes- very handy at the oddest times
shelter- a 30-40 gallon contractor bag folds up about the size of a slice of bread, and one or two might make the difference some night.

When you add your sling, try 1" tubular webbing with either triglides and/or double adjust side release buckles. The webbing is stronger than it look, and very adaptable.

To keep the lighter from being accidentally emptied, try a small zip tie wrapped around it under the plunger. Easily enough broken when needed.
 
A couple of condom canteens.
Snare wire. It's not just for rats & rabbits anymore. It fixes things too.
Braid your paracord into something. It takes up less space that way and you will be less likely to try to use it for non-emergency uses.
Signal mirror (or a few CD's)
A couple of bright bandanas takes up little space. Use it for bandaging or signalling.
Two minibics are better than one big one. Use the snare wire to wire that plunger thing so that it cannot be pushed down.

I see that you have water purification tabs even though you don't have it listed.
 
..... The Photon-type lights are similiar in brightness, but IMHO the difficulty in changing the battery rules them out.


The Inova micro light can be opened without tools and it doesn't puke small parts all over the place when opened. It has high/low power settings and stobe. The are half the price of the Photon lights too (about $8-$9).

But.... with LED lights like the County Comm at $1 each, it doesn't pay to carry spare batteries-- just carry another complete light (or two).
 
If you do some research on Dr Fred Klenner and his son - they have extensive use of vitamin C as a powerfull detoxifier and have saved many lives with it .Snake bites and insect bites can be treated well.Normally you would use injections but in the field tablets can be used .

This is complete BS. High doses of Vitamin C are about as effective in treating snakebite as a clove of garlic under your pillow. Fred Klenner was a nutjob and recognized as such by the medical mainstream, and his son Fred Jr ('Fritz') was implicated in about 9 murders before he suicided in 1985.
 
Its a nice kit. I'm pretty much of a minimalist so thats more stuff than I carry on a two day trip, with one exception. Most hardware stores have 3mil disposable plastic drop covers. A 9' x 9' one is about the size of two bandannas and will make an large one man shelter with ground cover.
 
Thanks for the suggestions.

Didn't know on the snake bite kit. I've been in Alaska for the past 9 years and snakes don't exist up there. I'll do some research and adjust my kit accordingly.

I did forget to label the water purification tablets. I like the iodine one because they can be used to clean a wound as well. I do carry either a canteen or a bladder system separate so didn't include anything in here for that purpose but can see where a backup would be nice. Do the condom canteen really work and hold up well? If so, they wouldn't take up much space at all.

Have thought about the 3mil drop covers and will look heavily into those. Have to go by Home Depot this morning anyway to get the sawzall blade.

As for aluminum foil, didn't see a major need since I had the cook pot. Couldn't think of another reason but am always open to ideas.

I carry a very nice silva compass on my person anytime I'm in the outdoors so I consider the compass in the kit as a backup, hence the reason for downsizing it a bit. What I've looking at is has just about as big of a bezel but just a smaller base plate. I'll rethink that one a good bit before doing anything. I'm also one of those people that if I have a piece of equipment, even though it might not be the exact one, I'll get missing pieces before upgrading what I have.

Didn't include wire due to the large amount of spiderwire (100') but is the wire that much better for snares and such. Can see it's usefulness in repairs.

On the med kit, I'm actually still trying to decide if I should carry a separate kit or just grow this one. I'm leaning towards a separate kit since in all likelihood I am much more prone to need the med kit for scrapes, cuts, twisted ankles and such, than I am the survival kit. For now just considering the little bit as a but of a suppliment.

I really do appreciate everyones comments.

Thank you,

Charles
 
If you do some research on Dr Fred Klenner and his son - they have extensive use of vitamin C as a powerfull detoxifier and have saved many lives with it .Snake bites and insect bites can be treated well.Normally you would use injections but in the field tablets can be used .Then get to a doctor !!.....There are lots of good flashlights out there .But LEDs come in various sizes so think how much light you will need and for how long ....I could never understand why a pencil and paper !

mete,
I also admire Dr. Klenner's and Dr. Linus Pauling's work. They only problem I have with your suggestion is that not all vitamin c is created equal. Some brands are well absorbed (relatively speaking) and some seems to be virtually unabsorbable in my digestive system. Personally, I find a certain brand of ester-c works well for me, and I recommend that informed members of this board try a few brands to see what they like best.

Not surprisingly, wikipedia has quite an extensive write up on vitamin c, and in this quote they would appear to endorse your advice, garlic cloves not withstanding :thumbup:,

"Trauma or injury has also been demonstrated to use up large quantities of vitamin C in humans."

For more info, check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C

As for paper and pencil, how about, "If you're reading this, tell my wife I love her."
 
Its a damn fine kit IMO. Really nice.
 
jh205, of course the medical establishment will always condemn those like Dr Klenner ,I've seen that many times ....My only test of vitamin C was on a friend who had been bitten many times by gnats or some other type of bugs. He asked for some help that evening . Dressed just in shorts his whole body was red and swollen .[The Klenner treatment would be 5 grams of C every 4 hours ,injected] I only had 5 grams which I gave him and in the next hour I watched the swelling and redness disappear !!! ....If you ask the establishment doctor about such things the response will be "don't use it , it's dangerous and ineffective" 'Did you ever research the subject or try it ? ' " No" !! A closed mind is a terrible thing.Personally I learned all about what " Catch 22 " meant from a doctor, I then went elsewhere !
 
Its a damn fine kit IMO. Really nice.

Thanks Fiddleback.

I was excited to find the French mess kit. Looks like the trick. I've seen others built around the aluminum baking pans or just using a bit of fil but didn't like those ideas. The pans have no handle and foil is good until you slip and get a tear and has no handle.

I was going to mention if there was anyone interested in one of these kits, let me know. I can get them cheap from the wholesaler I work for. We have 60 of them discontinued. Just let me know.

(Mods - if this last bit is against the rules, please let me know.)

Thanks,

Charles
 
Great kit - I think everyone has covered necessary suggestions. Definitely include some kind of shelter - poncho, garbage bags and duct tape, big piece of plastic.

Adventure Medical Kits makes great personal sized med kits. Go with your instinct to have a separate, complete med kit. It will actually probably get used unlike the rare occasion your fishing kit or sewing kit will be utilized.

Instead of a Sawzall blade you may want to consider to Pocket Chainsaw - its like 5oz and pretty compact. And your ability to collect firewood will be magnified many times.

Might want to include a little tube of sunscreen.

Anyhow, great kit - you got the bases covered.
 
Been trying to find one of the pocket chainsaws. Has anyone just used a section of actual chainsaw blade? Curious how that would work.

Have thought about the sunscreen thing, since tend to be on the white shade of things and have thought about insect repellant. I tend to carry the repellant as part of my regular hiking stuff though.

My wife laughs at me for all that I carry until she needs something. Then she just keeps quiet. LOL

Charles
 
I also tend to advocate carrying a small candle - like a tealight candle. It's something "extra" - not really necessary if you can collect wood and start a fire. But if you had an onset of hypothermia and it was raining and you were injured - you could ward off the hypothermia by wrapping your shelter/poncho/piece of plastic around yourself, sitting on the ground with your knees up to create a kind of "tipi". Placing the candle between your legs on the ground becomes the "campfire" inside your "tipi". So you get warmer faster without the trouble of trying to build a fire. The typical scenario I envisage is having a partner go into hypothermia and getting them warmed up with a candle while I collect the wood and make the fire.

Again, it's something extra - not really necessary.
 
Lots of good suggestions already, but overall I like your kit. One thing I would do, is bundle the cordage with a wide ranger band.
 
Lots of good suggestions already, but overall I like your kit. One thing I would do, is bundle the cordage with a wide ranger band.

Good idea. Nothing worse than a knotted mess of cord tying everything up when you desperately need to use it. Also want to get a ranger band to actually go around the skillet part just to hold it together.

Gonna have to get me some of those.

Charles
 
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