CRK Customer Service. Am I off base?

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A-MAC

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This is going to be long winded, get ready. I am heated right now, I got off the phone with CRK customer service about an hour ago and am still beyond mad. Someone please call me out if I am off base. I understand that there have been changes at CRK recently but that is no excuse.

So, I decided to send my large, plain Sebenza 21 in for a Spa service. I picked it up second hand and it had tons of snail trails on it. Additionally I didn't have the box or papers. So, I figured these two things together were good reasons to send it back to the mothership. Each email I get is from Alycia. I get the email that it was received March 28th, it also says in that email that normal turn around time is 4-8 weeks. I waited about 4 weeks and emailed them asking for a status, she tells me she doesn't have an update and that normal turn around time is 4-8 weeks. I email again at 6 weeks and got the same answer. I email again at 8 weeks, a Friday, and get an answer on Monday. I now know they are closed on Friday. On May 23rd, 8 weeks later, she tells me it will be through service that week and she will be calling me for payment information. The next day, May 24th, I get a call from Alycia as promised requesting payment. I give the info, she tells me it will be shipped the next day, May 25th. Cool, finally its on the way back. It arrives, a week later, via crappy UPS ground on June 1st.

I open the box and to my surprise the knife I am holding is not my knife. I sent in a plain, large 21 and I received a large 21 Classic in return. I immediately call, Alycia answers, I explain the problem. She tells me that I have to ship the knife back before they will ship my knife to me but that they had my knife there, it wasn't lost or sent to the wrong person. She emails me a prepaid 2 day shipping label and tells me as soon as they receive the return they will overnight me my knife and send me a free shirt for the trouble. I have my wife drop the return off at the UPS store the next morning as soon as they open, June 2nd and send me a picture of the receipt when it is on the way back to CRK. I call Alycia and tell her its on the way, offer to email a picture of the receipt and ask if its possible for me to pay for what the Classic costs or equivelant so they can go ahead and ship my knife out then they just refund that amount when they receive it. She tells me that she doesn't have the authority to make that decision and that everyone who does is away at BLADE Show. She then offers to refund he $17 I paid originally for shipping for the trouble, I say fine and thank you.

I saw yesterday the return was to be delivered yesterday June 6th, I called again yesterday morning, Alycia answered again and tells me they receive their UPS deliveries before lunch time and as soon as she has the other in hand she will overnight me my knife and email me a tracking number. I confirm with her that I will have my knife today, June 7th, she says again "yes" it should come today if they overnight it. I never received and email with tracking info as promised. I call again today at lunch time, June 7th, this time Angela answers the phone and tells me that Alycia is away from her desk but that she, Angela, is aware of the situation and will personally email the tracking number to me. Several hours go by and I have not received an email, finally at 3:44pm EST Alycia emails the tracking number. I track the package, low and behold they shipped it 3 Day Select, Not overnight like Alycia promised me twice. Not even 2 Day UPS Air. I call back AGAIN, I'm sure they are getting tired of me. I speak with Alycia again, she has no answers. Turns out Angela is her manager, I speak with her again, she also has no answers. She kept asking what would make me happy, I tell her to have my $400 knife when they promised twice I would have it, she said she couldn't do that which I already knew. The kicker is that neither of them seem to care.

In summation, I could have been a dirt bag, I think Classics are worth more than plain 21s. I could have kept it and not said a word. That would have put them in a tight spot with the actual owner of the Classic but I didn't. I promptly returned the wrong knife, about a 15 hour turn around time, so that hopefully the other guy could avoid some heartache. I was told twice, by two different people that I would receive an email with tracking information, that didn't happen. I was told twice that my knife would be sent overnight to me and that didn't happen. It is a $400 knife that is supposed to come with an amazing warranty and customer service to back it up. That is part of the price tag, part of the reason we all spend so much on them. Because of this experience I will never send another knife in for service and I will seriously think long and hard before purchasing another CRK. I love my 21, when it comes back I will use the crap out of it but I am not impressed with CRK CS.
 
So you have not received your knife just yet? I know what you experienced is not ideal but the issues you describe are not the end of the world...
This is a SUPER busy time of year for them, I am inclined to cut them a little slack until they get back from Blade and get settled back into their regular routine. I bet CRK is running with a skeleton crew at best right now! Just be patient and enjoy your new shirt and brand new looking knife when they arrive!
 
I haven't gotten the knife or shirt. Thursday, 9th supposedly.
The point is I was lied to several times after being inconvenienced several times and they didn't seem to care.
 
While not out of line I would let it go, you will have your knife soon and it isn't worth getting agitated over.
But in all fairness to you-they did screw up twice. Once sending the wrong knife(real bad screw up), and once not mailing it overnight(not as big a deal)-can't say that was good service, but things happen. Hope it is the last screw up for this one.
Now if I was the Classic MM owner, that might be another story. I wonder what they have been telling him or her
 
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Your not off base. I'm sure you feel better after venting. I'd be bummed too. Hoping for a good out come. I'd be so pissed being without my edc. But then again. Its not leaving my zip code. Ever.
 
Do you have the knife now? Was the work they did on it good?
(Sorry if I missed that part of your post)

Personally I think it's not great but not altogether awful. It sounds a bit like some key people went to blade instead of keeping things running smoothly.

When it comes to estimated turnaround times, I wouldnt generally make contact on the earliest finish date. They notified you of an estimated time and beyond that the person you talk to on the phone rarely has access to useful information. The person who does know is usually doing the work and nobody wants them distracted by phone calls. Some people would prefer to know where in the queue their knife/work sits, but that can be a minefield for service providers; other customers won't understand why their knife has been sitting untouched for 5 weeks.

It does sound like some of their CS systems failed, possibly due to staff being at blade. If customers see or think that has happened, it's important for the companies to be made aware if only from a process improvement perspective.

While I don't think what you experienced is awful, it's sub par for what I would expect from a premium brand. If you do email through some feedback, try to keep it constructive, don't make it personal and keep emotion out of it :)
 
I can see this from your perspective- your Sebenza, your time waiting, your wasted time shipping and calling them to fix it. But, keep in mind they have probably 100 or more customer's knives pass through their hands each day and keeping them all exactly straight could lead to mix-ups and especially with a bunch of the staff off to Blade Show. It's not an excuse but I suspect they did not intend it to happen that way.

Your reaction does somewhat remind me of the Charles Schwab breakfast interview tactic whereby Walt Bettinger, the CEO, purposely has the restaurant manager mix-up the interviewee's order just to see how they respond to a situation that, in the end, is trivial. But it tells him a lot about that person.

I'm certain that on Thursday after the brown truck drives away things will be okay.
 
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First paragraph;
Meh. When you sent it off and they told you that turn around time is "4-8 weeks" and you email at 4, 6, and 8 weeks asking for an update and they don't have an update until 8 weeks then technically they are in the 4-8 week period initially promised.

Second paragraph;
That was mighty cool of you to call and say "Hey, you sent me the wrong knife". I know people who would have taken the other knife and left it at that. But, they did refund you your original shipping and they will send you a free T-Shirt for your trouble so that was cool

Third Paragraph;
This is where I am with you on being upset. I understand that most of the crew may be at Blade Show and you are working with a smaller staff. If you have any doubt in your mind that you can't send me my knife, or whatever the item is, via overnight shipping the same day then don't promise me that you will. I hate when a company or a person tells you "Yeah, I will email you" or do something and they don't and you have to call again to find out what is going on. To make it worse, it wasn't shipped overnight the same day but actually shipped the next day via 3 Day Select. But, think of it like this. Instead of getting your knife today the 7th you should get it Thursday, or Friday at the latest. How much cutting will you do in that 1-2 day difference in time that you will say "damn I sure need my large Sebenza for this".

Fourth Paragraph;
As I said earlier, that was mighty nice of you to call and return the other knife. I don't know the price difference in the two but either way that was good on your part. I see where you say that since the knife is "a $400 knife" it should come with an amazing warranty. I agree. I also think that they didn't mess up that bad also. You got your $17 shipping back and a free T-Shirt. It sucks that you didn't get YOUR knife back the first time and you didn't get the free overnight shipping but they did ship (hopefully the right knife) back to you this time. I wouldn't go as far as you and say "I will never send another knife in for service". Nobody is perfect so don't let a bad experience ruin your thoughts on a company. Now if it happened again then......
 
Sorry for the OP's troubles, and his complaints are legit. That said, I think the big picture problem here is CRK shipped the wrong knife. Mishandling logistics of next day air vs 3 day select is one thing, sending out knives to the wrong customers is a totally different league of unorganized. Disconcerting, to say the least. CRK needs to buckle down and secure some employees to replace the experienced ones they've lost recently.

Lot's of negative press for them around here lately, and new shiny model knives and angular pocket clips will never supplant customer service going down the tubes. Just my opinion, of course, and worth what you paid for it.
 
I'd be pissed too and wouldn't settle for a tshirt and refunded shipping. I think a leather sheath or a $50 giftcard is reasonable though.
 
Hope this plays out well for you. The biggest component here? Just acting like they didn't care. We have all had customer service issues in our lives, and that "caring" part is a deal maker/breaker. But be optimistic. You might get sent a Regular Annual this time.
 
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My pet peeve is when any person fails to do what they say they will do. That's a lack of integrity as far as I'm concerned. If you make promises you somehow can't keep, I'd at very least expect a call, an apology, and every effort to make it right. This happens all too often with other companies, I would hope CRK is above that behavior.


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No, I definitely haven't experienced anything while it's been gone that required a CRK to cut it. Nor do I expect them to give me a bunch of crap. The shirt was offered be Alycia after she figured out they messed up. The shipping refund was offered after she admitted she didn't have any authority to make decisions and I was clearly bummed. Which she didn't have the authority to offer, she admitted she would have to ask Mrs. Reeve for permission. Angela took responsibility for shipping the wrong knife to begin with.

The point is I was lied to at least four (4) Times by a total of two (2) separate employees AND it didn't matter to them. I understand BLADE show is a big deal for them but leaving the person with no power in charge seems asinine. Do you expect me to believe that in 2016 Alycia couldn't have called or emailed someone for direction or permission? Come on. It's been 10 weeks, me checking the status of my order with them more than once should have no bearing on their service. Also, when they realized what a huge mess up this was they should have fixed it. My knife should have been shipped back immediately, I was nice to ship back first and promptly. I could have held out until I received mine back and/or I could have drug my feet like they have done and maybe not get around to shipping it back until next week or so via horse drawn carriage.

I feel much better to have vented but I'm still disappointed.
 
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I have several knives that I want to send in, including two Regulars. Now I am nervous with this story and everything else going on. Maybe things will stabilize after Blade....
 
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