CRKT Clever Girl Folder

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Sheesh. I don't even know where to start.

I used to love CRKT long long time ago. I kept being apologetic for it in recent times, cause it's really like that half-senile weird uncle that keeps saying "can you kids teach me the internet so i can look for some hoochie" and always wears the same pair of farty brown corduroy pants. It's bad, but you'd feel bad for hating it.

But man, is their QC a mess...

Bought a Clever Girl folder cause i like the design (both fixed and folder), even though super-tactical stuff isn't really my thing, and because i was curious about the deadbolt lock (didn't have any deadbolt knives in my collection). Out of the box, looks nice, some rough corners, blemishes, but nothing too major.

I try to open it, and it feels like scraping the blade across a cinderblock.
So i take it apart, and jesus...

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Took some effort to even unscrew most of the screws including the pivot, cause they were SLATHERED in loctite. I can't even be sure it's loctite, it felt like straight CA dyed blue when i was cleaning the threads.

Slivers and flakes of CA were all over the bearings (oh, yeah, IKBS is caged now, thank f**k), which explains the gritty feeling in part, but not all of it. So i remove the bearings and...

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No lubrication. Of any kind.
The snail trail in DLC you see isn't lubrication, it's the trench the balls dug in it.
I swear, it was COMPLETELY dry.
Which is all sorts of funny, because the backspacer was lubricated for some reason:

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Yup. Gotta keep that backspacer lubricated.
Don't want it binding or galling against the liner.

As an aside, the total number of parts is insane:

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And that's not even a full teardown.
It's fairly easy to take apart, and put together, and you don't need to do a full teardown to lubricate or adjust the pivot, which is nice. It's enough to unscrew the button, pull out the deadbolt and that's it, the pivot is exposed - you don't even have to remove the scales, which is awesome.

I also love that you can adjust the detent strength by just tweaking a set screw. It's even exposed through the scales, so you can play with it effortlessly until you find something you like.

Which you'll need to do to find a good balance between thumb-flicking and flipping if you want both to feel perfect. The blade is absurdly huge and heavy and has a lot of momentum. Umnumzaan for scale:

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Lubed everything up nicely with a 50:50 mix of NLGI 1 transmission grease and nano oil, adjusted the tension, flips okay.
Not super mega smooth, likely because of the idiotic decision to DLC coat the WHOLE blade.
There's lock-stick (of sorts), but that's to be expected considering how the deadbolt lock works, and considering the lock and the lock faces are all DLC coated.

I don't mind it, it requires a solid *click* of the button to unlock, so less of a chance of an accidental disengagement.


Oh, also, had to wedge a piece of paper between the aluminium button frame and the G10 scale, as there was too much slack and it would wiggle and click which annoyed me.
 
I mean, if you like it, and don't shy away from tearing down and reassembling your knives (i happen to love it), go for it.
Once all lubed up, tweaked and broken in, it's a nice knife, and fun to fidget with too.

Just be *VERY* careful to keep it away from your fingers.
The upswept blade tip makes it super easy to accidentally snag on a finger, cause it can puncture skin easily even if you're on the trailing edge of the blade.
Ask me how i know.

Also, mine came sharpened stupidly sharp out of the box (hair popping shave sharp).
 
Periodically I go look at the Clever Girl folder and come close to buying it, because I love the design and the lock looks interesting, but I never follow through.

Thank you for reminding me why. :thumbsup:
Exactly this. I really like this folder and would buy it if anyone else made it, but I don't feel good giving those people my money.
 
Oh, yeah, another bit of CRKT magic.

After disassembly, i found some plastic wrap stuck on the inside of the liners.
I'm guessing that's how the parts get delivered to protect them from corrosion, and someone did a bad job peeling it.

LMFAO, this company...
 
I mean, if you like it, and don't shy away from tearing down and reassembling your knives (i happen to love it), go for it.
Once all lubed up, tweaked and broken in, it's a nice knife, and fun to fidget with too.

There's a price point at which I'd roll the CRKT dice on one of these (and I don't mind a bit of tinkering), but unfortunately it's considerably lower than the street price. :D
 
There's a price point at which I'd roll the CRKT dice on one of these (and I don't mind a bit of tinkering), but unfortunately it's considerably lower than the street price. :D

Considering the number of parts, number of operations required to produce the parts, and complexity of the blade/lock geometry, i sort of find the price understandable.
What i don't understand is the piss-poor QC and assembly...
 
Considering the number of parts, number of operations required to produce the parts, and complexity of the blade/lock geometry, i sort of find the price understandable.

From just about any other major manufacturer, absolutely. If Spyderco, KAI, WE, Kizer, Cold Steel -- you get the idea -- made this knife at $160 street, I'd have bought it the hot second it was released.

Like, if it were a $100 kit you assemble on your own, it'd be a better product.

Thanks, that made me literally laugh out loud. :thumbsup::D

So succinct it could be a tagline: "CRKT: If it were a $100 kit you assemble on your own, it'd be a better product."

Okay, I'm stepping off my soapbox now. I'm thrilled that CRKT gets the job done for lots of folks, and I genuinely like a lot of their designs and partnerships -- as well as their willingness to innovate outside the box (Deadbolt, the Homefront teardown thing, the Provoke, etc.).
 
^ This. also,I think 160 for generic D2, steel liners and g10 scales is too overpriced. It should be around 100.00 if not less considering the materials,no matter how many parts are in it. I do like that lock though,but this and the seismec are not my style at all.
 
The material is the minor part of the budget.
So complexity of the parts and assembly likely have a much greater effect, especially at scale.

I don't think $100 is realistic.
Even if WE made it.

They could've made it not DLC'd, priced it at $120-$130, and it would've been a much better product.
But then it wouldn't be tacticool.
 
Typical CRKT chicanery. :rolleyes:

Take a cool , innovative design ...but then cheap out on the actual materials and QC .

So the final result is more gimmick than great . :(:thumbsdown:
 
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