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CRKT Flipper
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The flipper is a small lobe that serves two effective purposes:
1) While closed it protrudes from the spine of the knife and when depressed sharply down and back with the index finger QUICKLY flips the blade out to a closed and locked position!
2) While the knife is open it serves as a finger guard.
It is a wonderful and effective device!
1) While closed it protrudes from the spine of the knife and when depressed sharply down and back with the index finger QUICKLY flips the blade out to a closed and locked position!
2) While the knife is open it serves as a finger guard.
It is a wonderful and effective device!
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This knife has thumbstuds for opening, so mostly the 'flipper' is for catching on your pocket when you try and retrieve the knife.
Most CRKT studs are good enough at doing this...so...unless you are 14 and like 'flicking', I wouldn't recommend this option.
Steve-O
Most CRKT studs are good enough at doing this...so...unless you are 14 and like 'flicking', I wouldn't recommend this option.
Steve-O
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I'm with Jason on this one. Not sure why Steve-0 is so sour on the notion.
It is true that the thumb studs on the CRKT Mirage do have a tendency to catch on pockets. It has never been a problem for me with my M16-14, nor with my LUS, my KFF, my Tighe Tac, or my Apache.
The flipper enables a much faster opening for me than does my CRKT Crawfor/Kasper large KFF. The KFF feels better in my hand, and is a more utilitarian blade than the tanto, IMHO, and it opens very smoothly and easily. But, it is quite a bit slower than the M16.
I also would quibble with Steve-O's characterization of those who flip/flick their knives as being 14. Well, maybe it is childish, but I like to think of it as obsessive. (I'm not compulsive
)If you've done much reading on the forums, I'm sure you've seen many forumites/knifenuts acknowledge that they spend hours doing that particualarly joyful little practice. And, the M16 is tough enough to handle it. Don't know how many hundreds/thousands of times I've done it to mine, but there's nary a smidgen of play in the blade. Kit Carson and CRKT know what they're doing, in my opinion.
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Bugs
It is true that the thumb studs on the CRKT Mirage do have a tendency to catch on pockets. It has never been a problem for me with my M16-14, nor with my LUS, my KFF, my Tighe Tac, or my Apache.
The flipper enables a much faster opening for me than does my CRKT Crawfor/Kasper large KFF. The KFF feels better in my hand, and is a more utilitarian blade than the tanto, IMHO, and it opens very smoothly and easily. But, it is quite a bit slower than the M16.
I also would quibble with Steve-O's characterization of those who flip/flick their knives as being 14. Well, maybe it is childish, but I like to think of it as obsessive. (I'm not compulsive
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Bugs
Bugs3X - I'm with you. I think if the M16 is the CRKT knive I decide to buy soon, it will be mostly because of the flipper; all other factors aside. I appreciate hearing your comments about "toughness" of these knives, as that thought had occurred to me. Seems to me if one is to carry a knife such as this around with you, it's pretty important to practice with it regularly. Cheers, Jeff/1911.
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I've also had problems with the flipper. I have a M-1602Z and when I use the flipper the blade never opens completely, so I have to complete the movement by finding the thumb stud and opening the knife. One alternative is to flip it partially open, then to flick it open. Maybe the flipper works better with the larger M16 version.
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Thomas,
That may be the case. I also have a M16-02Z that a friend gave me. It may be better on the larger versions, but the flipper only opened the blade if you helped it along with a flick of the wrist (which will open it, anyway
).
The flipper was also right where the middle of my index finger wants to be. I say was, because flipper met Dremel and lost. I like the knife much better sans flipper. Ditched the clip, too, since it was on the wrong end (ducking and covering
).
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That may be the case. I also have a M16-02Z that a friend gave me. It may be better on the larger versions, but the flipper only opened the blade if you helped it along with a flick of the wrist (which will open it, anyway
The flipper was also right where the middle of my index finger wants to be. I say was, because flipper met Dremel and lost. I like the knife much better sans flipper. Ditched the clip, too, since it was on the wrong end (ducking and covering
[This message has been edited by OwenM (edited 03-25-2001).]
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I've got the M16-04 and I love it. Perhaps you guys with the smaller versions could try loosening the pivot screw very slightly and/or use some good lube, that may help the blade flick out using the flipper? I never neededed to adjust the pivot on my knife from new but since then I have stripped it down for cleaning purposes, and when I put it back together I make sure I can still flick the blade out.
My advise would be to exercise your fingers
I had one of the flipper knives a year ago, i found that on had to snap the flipper to make it open all the way, not just push it and then be done with it.
I think it's really good.
One thing that i really liked was the Kershaw Boa with speed-safe and flipper, i hated all the other speed-safes but this one worked A-OK.
Just my 0.2 cents
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I had one of the flipper knives a year ago, i found that on had to snap the flipper to make it open all the way, not just push it and then be done with it.
I think it's really good.
One thing that i really liked was the Kershaw Boa with speed-safe and flipper, i hated all the other speed-safes but this one worked A-OK.
Just my 0.2 cents
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I have an M16-03Z with the flipper and I love it. It took about 3 weeks to wear in and be totally smooth, but now I just hit the flipper and the blade flies open. I find it's even reliable and fast with my clumsy left hand. It also acts as a good catch to grip when drawing the knife from the pocket. IMO it's a great invention and I'd like to see more knives with it. You can also hold one of the thumb studs with one finger while applying pressure to the flipper, then quickly release your finger from the stud, and the blade flips open - this works if the action is a bit tight. Or do a light wrist flick as you hit the flipper to open in one smooth motion. W/a little WL and "break in" time, you shouldn't have to do either.
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I have two M16-14M's. One opens very easily with the flipper and one sometimes needs a bit of hand flic. I am sure if I lube and work the knife in it will function as the other. I like the flipper for the opening and the hand positioning. The M14-16M feels the best of any folder I have in my hand. I have an actual Carson M16 on order and can't wait. Dick
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Am glad to learn the smaller blades will also flip well. From a couple old threads I read, kinda thought maybe it was the sheer mass of the 04-14 pair that made it so relatively easy.
If anyone wants to challenge me to finger wrestling -- with right index fingers only -- just step right up. Big muscles here!
No mine is successful after lubing well. Couldn't do it when I first got it, without some wrist involvement. (I'm thorry to thay it but my writh ithn't ath tthrong as it could be.)
Think my meds have taken and it may be time to toddle.
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Bugs
If anyone wants to challenge me to finger wrestling -- with right index fingers only -- just step right up. Big muscles here!
No mine is successful after lubing well. Couldn't do it when I first got it, without some wrist involvement. (I'm thorry to thay it but my writh ithn't ath tthrong as it could be.)
Think my meds have taken and it may be time to toddle.
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It's an excellent design. With all of the knives in the M16 series, the thumbstud not only is an opening device, but also serves as a blade stop.
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