Crkt M16

Diamond Cut II

Diamond Cut II

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I'm planning on getting the zytel model and just wanted to ask if any of you have had any experience with this knife. I got to play with it at the mall and found out that the Carson Flipper isn't what I thought it would be. I thought it'd be like Speedsafe. But then I thought "Oh well, I need a tactical knife anyway." So...anything? Thanks in advance.


-DC2

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I'm thinking about getting a neck knife too, the S&W tanto looks good anyone have anything on this knife? Thanks.
 
Originally posted by calyth
look for aluminum version cause it uses AUS 8 steel.
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Well, I'm looking for the cheapest. I'm not getting that much money on Christmas:D . I have to get that, a Ka-bar, an Infinity Ultra LED light, and a tactical knife sheath:eek: . Thanks.


-DC2
 
i used to have a CRKT M16-03Z and it was a great knife, the steel really is not the greatest but it is easy to sharpen, good lockup and the flipper is about as fast a opening as you are going to get plus it makes a great finger guard when the knife is open. All around good knife, if i was looking for a cheap knife i would go with either the CRKT M16 or Kersaw Vapor.
 
The Speedsafe is faster with less effort, but once you get more experienced with the flipper, it's at least as fast, IMO. Plus you don't have to worry about breaking things with the flipper. The torsion bar in my Chive snapped, is why I mention that.

Asha'man
 
the flipper is great... I can open them about as fast as my automatics...

The only thing I don't like is the tip down carry... I have to find someone to drill holes to switch the clip.

it's an excellent knife... you can't go wrong with it, especially for the price.
 
I like the titanium and carbon fiber big tanto versions because of the better steel. Any one get one of these yet?
 
With the money you'll be spending on that you should just buy a Spyderco Delica or Endura (FRN). I owned an M16 and sold it to someone a week later. There was nothing I liked about the blade. I thought the whole thing was just a POS. I didn't like feel and there are way to many sharp edges that snag on cloths. Take my advice...buy the Spydie!
 
CRKT makes good knives for the money ;) If you want my "two bits" go for the '16' I handled one @ The Sports Authority here in Ft. Laudy; seems to be well made ( and scary sharp ;)) as for the S&W "neck knife" you refer to, go for it too ;) they do a good job as well ( for the price ).

Happy Veteran's Day, fellow "dog faces"!;)

AET ( former 11Bravo (and DAMN proud of it too!;))
 
Originally posted by crazy nicky
With the money you'll be spending on that you should just buy a Spyderco Delica or Endura (FRN). I owned an M16 and sold it to someone a week later. There was nothing I liked about the blade. I thought the whole thing was just a POS. I didn't like feel and there are way to many sharp edges that snag on cloths. Take my advice...buy the Spydie!
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Side by side,
The M-16 and the Endura have pretty much the same metal in the blade.

The M-16 has a much heftier and bigger blade

The M- 16 has metal liners and a safety which is absent from the Spyderco

The M-16 clip, although Tip down, is they type with three screws, not prone to slipping or breaking... I've had the new Endura clips twist in the little lanyard hole and damage the handle.

All these extras for approximately the same price... I can't understand how you would think the CRKT is a POS compared to the Spyderco.
 
I love mine. I bought the Zytel one for my Dad a couple of years ago. He beats the crap out of it. It is still in good shape. Little bit of rust, but he doesn't really take care of it. He is an auto mechanic and gets all sorts of fluids on it. He seems to really like it. Hope that helps.
 
Yeah, what MelancholyMutt said ;) (and me bein' a devout Spydie lover;)) But hey, facts is FACTS! ;)

AET ;) ( ATE on the Spyderco "home" forum ;))
 
I like the looks of the M16 but I haven't handle one. Do the flippers fray pockets?
 
crazy nicky just doesn't like the way the knife looks and I can understand that. I really don't like the look of a Spyderco knife (all Spyderco's to be exact) and I think it looks pretty flimsy but that's just my opinion. Personally, I like tactical knives and Spyderco's don't really appeal to me. Not that I'm saying Spyderco sucks, it's just that look that's weird to me. Thank's for all the input.


-DC2
 
I own the FRN VG-10 Endura and a CRKT aluminum M-16 so...

First of all, they're both very tough knives (much tougher than their light weight would suggest). I pounded both of them through about 2.5" of hard dry cedar and they both suffered no damage at all.
So don't feel that you have to "baby" either of these knives.
That being said, I prefer the Endura, and here's why:

Straight from the pocket, the Endura is faster to deploy than the M-16. Even though the M-16 has the flipper, my thumb just naturally falls on the Endura's hole.

In the pocket, the M-16 sticks up alittle too high for my tastes.
And I like the Endura's pocket-clip better too.

I like the way the Endura lockback stays closed. With a liner-lock, you always have to possibility of it opening in you pocket (since it only has a small ball-detent to keep it closed). And the flipper makes it even easier for the blade to open unexpectly.
The lock-back design is also ambidexterous, but the liner-lock is not very user-friendly for lefties.

The aluminum M-16 has AUS-8 blade steel, while the Endura has VG-10. I think the VG-10 is simply a little bit better than the AUS-8.

For me, the Endura has a much more comfortable handle than the M-16.

And lastly, there are a few things that I don't like about the M-16: the liner-lock release is very abrasive, as are the thumbstuds. So much so that they really chew up your thumb. This probably does'nt bother brickmasons and field workers, but I work at a hospital and I don't have rough callused hands.

Well, I hope that helps.
Good luck,
Allen.
 
Originally posted by allenC
I own the FRN VG-10 Endura and a CRKT aluminum M-16 so...

First of all, they're both very tough knives (much tougher than their light weight would suggest). I pounded both of them through about 2.5" of hard dry cedar and they both suffered no damage at all.
So don't feel that you have to "baby" either of these knives.
That being said, I prefer the Endura, and here's why:

Straight from the pocket, the Endura is faster to deploy than the M-16. Even though the M-16 has the flipper, my thumb just naturally falls on the Endura's hole.

In the pocket, the M-16 sticks up alittle too high for my tastes.
And I like the Endura's pocket-clip better too.

I like the way the Endura lockback stays closed. With a liner-lock, you always have to possibility of it opening in you pocket (since it only has a small ball-detent to keep it closed). And the flipper makes it even easier for the blade to open unexpectly.
The lock-back design is also ambidexterous, but the liner-lock is not very user-friendly for lefties.

The aluminum M-16 has AUS-8 blade steel, while the Endura has VG-10. I think the VG-10 is simply a little bit better than the AUS-8.

For me, the Endura has a much more comfortable handle than the M-16.

And lastly, there are a few things that I don't like about the M-16: the liner-lock release is very abrasive, as are the thumbstuds. So much so that they really chew up your thumb. This probably does'nt bother brickmasons and field workers, but I work at a hospital and I don't have rough callused hands.

Well, I hope that helps.
Good luck,
Allen.
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Exactly Allen! I feel the same way 100%... It's not that I don't like the look of the M-16,I actually do and thats why I bought one, it just isn't a comfortable knife. I had the Zytel one in a Tanto blade and it just felt very coarse and the flipper is very rough to and tends to snag on cloths. CRKT has to give extras to accomodate for terrible steel!
 
Getting back to another point...I didn't even like the liner lock on the M-16. That tore the sh!t out of my thumb as well...I also found it hard to get to. All that knife needs is a few modifications and better steel and would be a sick knife. I love the flipper concept.
 
Originally posted by Diamond Cut II
crazy nicky just doesn't like the way the knife looks and I can understand that. I really don't like the look of a Spyderco knife (all Spyderco's to be exact) and I think it looks pretty flimsy but that's just my opinion. Personally, I like tactical knives and Spyderco's don't really appeal to me. Not that I'm saying Spyderco sucks, it's just that look that's weird to me. Thank's for all the input.
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I'm of the same opinion. The Spyderco's just don't "click" with me, while I think that M16's look great. However, if you have big hands, the spearpoint's handle might be a little too small for you.

Originally posted by allenC
In the pocket, the M-16 sticks up alittle too high for my tastes.
And I like the Endura's pocket-clip better too.
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Note that the zytel version of the M16-03/M16-13 has a low-ride clip and the knife carries very well in the pocket. No accidental openings over several months of carry. I only know about the spearpoint version, because I've never seen a picture of the other side of the tantos. The non-zytel versions all have a high-riding clip which exposes the pivot above the pocket. Apparently the reason for the high clip is so that the pocket edge won't inadvertently move the flipper and open the knife.

Originally posted by allenC
And lastly, there are a few things that I don't like about the M-16: the liner-lock release is very abrasive, as are the thumbstuds. So much so that they really chew up your thumb. This probably does'nt bother brickmasons and field workers, but I work at a hospital and I don't have rough callused hands.
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I play with my knives so much that my hands are callused anyway. The most damage came from my AFCK Axis, and now my fingers aren't too sensitive anymore. So the solution is to play with your knives enough to get calluses. :) Hehe.

More realistically, you might want to file/sand down the thumbstuds and the lock disengagement area. You should only sand the latter a little bit on the zytel model, since it's already quite deep in the handle. On the zytel, there are dual liners so it's a little bit harder to disengage. On the aluminum models, there is only one liner and the opposite scale has a scallop cut in it, making the lock very easy to disengage. You could probably get away with sanding down the aluminum's liner a bit more even.
 
And lastly, there are a few things that I don't like about the M-16: the liner-lock release is very abrasive, as are the thumbstuds. So much so that they really chew up your thumb. This probably does'nt bother brickmasons and field workers, but I work at a hospital and I don't have rough callused hands.
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Since I play the guitar, my hands are already calloused so no problems there.

More realistically, you might want to file/sand down the thumbstuds and the lock disengagement area.
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What I would've said if he didn't beat me to it:D .
 
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