CRKT RMJ 2730 Chogan T-Hawk Modification Thread

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OK,....so there are lots of posts on modifications of the Cold Steel T-Hawk, but a search here showed "nuttin" on the CRKT CMJ 2730 Chogan T-Hawk.

What have you all been waiting for! :)

I just picked one of these up on Amazon and it was delivered a few days ago. The blade was fairly sharp, but needed a bit of work to get an edge I was satisfied with. While I was at it, I decided to do a few modifications of the Bit at this time. I never imagined I would be putting almost 7 hours into this one, but once you get started it's addictive to get it just the way you want it! My previous 35 year career Jewelry repair "fussiness" at work even here. :rolleyes:

Initially I thought I would add some file work to the top (and possibly the underside?), but decided this T-Hawk best represents a workhorse design, and to "pretty" it up a bit was out of character for it's intended use.

The first thing that I did was add some "teeth" the the hammer poll, as on reviewing a post on another T-Hawk having that feature it really DOES aid in keeping hand made wooden/branch tent stakes and animal trap stakes from slipping off. (especially when the wood is wet!)

I was concentrating so much over the last 3 days working on this, that all the pics are of the completed work, including a hot bath for 15 minutes in some Apple Cider Vinegar to get some protective "blue" on the carbon steel bit. (for a "primitive" blue look) I also figured that if you already own this T-Hawk, you already know what the stock version looks like. :D

The hammer poll was "checkered" simply but effectively with just a 1" cut off disc in my hand held Foredom flexible shaft machine,....much like a Dremel but more of a pro level construction. (used one over 35 years in Jewelry repair) Efforts were made to keep the depth of cuts as even as possible for cosmetic reasons, but not functionally important of course.

Before I stripped off the paint, I used a sharp set of dividers to mark off the lines so that they would be fairly even throughout the hammer poll area. I decided for now not to bring the squares to any sort of point, as I found that they work quite well like this,....with just the approximately 90 degree cuts and sharp edges. Also, diamond points would chew up plastic or aluminum stakes much more, and this works fine as is.

I suppose the wooden stakes "compress" a bit into the 1.5mm deep channels when struck, so that there is some "bite" into the tops of the wooden stakes.

By the way, cutting the squares freehand took maybe 1 hour previously, and I used a 2.5 power magnifying headband to see the scratched in lines and protect the eyes also. You only have one shot to get the lines straight and in the right place, so take your time.

I found that grinding in a very light scratch first on ALL the lines was a bit safer, and then go back and deepen each one to the depth you want. This allows you to correct a small position error, and any missteps can later be sanded out flush at the end. The light starting grooves also tend to guide the cutoff disc, but work slow to get it right.

Overall the "look" of the hammer poll came out sweet, and as a freehand job tough to better with my 58 year old eyes and bum shoulder. (very painful calcific rotator cuff tendonitis for 4 years now! :grumpy: )

A few pics of the poll area:








As you can see, all the original paint was removed, as well as the PITA "hammered" finish in the steel. Initially I used a 1/2" rubber drum sander to remove all the paint (fairly thin coat), as well as all the hammered finish "dimples". (relatively deep in this hardened steel) THEN the real work began, with HAND SANDING using a small wooden block and 220 grit sandpaper to get the surface as flat as possible. 600 grit followed and I stopped there as this IS a tool after all, and not a wall hanger! ;)

The hand sanding is tedious for sure, and took over 5 hours in total, split up over 2 days as it's tough on the fingers and I have a painful shoulder besides. The sanding time is of course compounded by dealing with already hardened steel. (takes lots of pressure to dig in) Next time I'll search out a small angle grinder / sander to save some effort, although you'll have to be mindful to keep the bit fairly cool. Hand sanding NOT an issue with heat on this hard stuff!



The Apple Cider Vinegar gave a decent "vintage" blue look to the T-Hawk Bit, but I noticed an interesting dividing "line" emerged where I believe the bit was differentially hardened for the blade edge, and lesser but still noticeable at the hammer poll area. Apparently the harder the steel, the more color it accepts off this primitive bluing method.

It would seem to me that this very easy and quick primitive "blue" is especially suited to a hard working tool who's head, which can be easily removed and touched up as needed thru use. :thumbup:



Less pronounced, but still a dividing line appeared at the poll end due to the bit harder steel there:





Of course I slightly beveled the previously sharp edges to the shaft opening (both top and bottom), so that the handle seats more securely and with less scuffing to the wood. ALL original bevels were also smoothed up (along the beard and also along the working blade edge), as they were too coarsely ground for my taste. They blend in much better now with the much smoother overall finish. (feels buttery S M O O T H now :thumbup: )

I'm surprised CRKT doesn't offer a better finished and blued version of this, even at double or triple the price. Considering what custom makers often get on a forged T-Hawk,.......I'd thing they'd sell quite well at $110 to $140 range maybe. (My Amazon purchase for this was only $40 shipped)



I still plan to do a little work on the handle, such as adding a lanyard hole (possibly some "grip" material also?),...and removing the marks left at both ends from turning the wood at the factory. I may also carve into the wood above the bit the letters "CRKT", and possibly "2730" or "Chogan", but haven't settled on that yet.

The piece of Hickory this came with is fairly nice, with some nice grain lines. But I plan to strip off the finish and add a bit more color as one side is lighter than the other, and put on a hand rubbed in finish.

.....still a work in progress,......but the rest will be easy!

 
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Very cool! Nice to see people starting to mod these. I'm gonna give it a try eventually. Nice work!
 
I had not considered a hot cider vinegar bath. Can you provide additional details on this step please?
 
I had not considered a hot cider vinegar bath. Can you provide additional details on this step please?

It's pretty simply, really. After all the finish work was done, I put enough Apple Cider Vinegar in a microwave safe plastic container to cover the entire T-Hawk bit. (test the depth but then REMOVE THE STEEL BIT!)

I microwaved the approximately 1 quart of apple cider vinegar for 3 minutes, or until the vinegar was uncomfortably hot but not scalding to my bare hands. (had I had insulated gloves available I might have gone hotter! :-)

While the microwave was heating the solution I really scrubbed down the bit with a scotch guarded sponge and hot soapy water using dish detergent, and rinsed really well. I tried to keep my fingers OFF the steel once it was well rinsed, and handled the bit from the "eye" opening only. The final rinse water was HOT, to pre-warm the steel to keep the temperature as high as possible during the 15 to 20 minute soaking time. I also flipped over the bit a few times and regularly agitated the solution every minute or so for a few seconds by gently shaking the container from side to side.

For the record, the apple cider vinegar also works COLD, but I found it takes a lot longer to color up. Once I was satisfied with the color, I removed the bit and rinsed it really well in warm water, and used the soft side of the sponge also. I towel dried the bit, and used rubbing alcohol at the cut out poll hammer end to get rid of all the water there in the crevasses.

.....and a final wiping with mineral oil to set the "blue" and a few minutes later wiped off most of the oil.

I've used this "Blue" on a lot of my 1055 carbon steel knives, and like it for the ease of application, containing no harmful chemicals, and also the ease to touch it up when needed. Pretty cheep too, as a whole gallon of the house brand (Price Chopper) was just $3.00 at my local supermarket. I have found I can even re-ruse the solution at least once more, and I store the "used" vinegar in some old plastic iced tea containers with the screw on tops,...AND MARK THEM! :D

As a side note, this Apple Cider Vinegar was listed as being a 5% solution strength, and it didn't smell as strong as another older bottle I had when I did some knives last month. I had already thrown away the container, but suspect the solution strength was higher as the smell really was more noticeable than the new stuff. Perhaps Aplle Cider Vinegar gets stronger with age, as the old bottle was at least 5 or 6 YEARS OLD! :rolleyes:

If you can find some in a stronger than 5% solution, I would go with that as I found the other stuff worked quicker.

As a side note, I will say the hand smooth-sanded sides and slightly beveled edges make this T-Hawk bit look like a million bucks of top notch quality! All the hours of sanding well worth it. It even looked pretty sharp left in the "raw" steel, but decided I wanted at least a light coat of protection.
 
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I meant to ask earlier if others have noticed their CRKT 2730 Woods Chogan T-Hawk has what looks VERY close to a Convex Grind (sort of semi-convex?), although in the advertizing it's described as having a "Flat Grind"?

......anyone else notice this on their sample?
 
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Great job Joe. Almost looks too good to use.

Almost...

I agree,..."Almost",....lol

Yesterday a couple of 3-4" diameter dead trees fell to her edge, .....some more victims of the dreaded "Kudzu" vines. Other than a bit of the vinegar-blue lightening on just the first 1/4 inch of the blade, which I expected, the finish still looks great.

But it's nice to know at any time that could be quickly touched up.

.......for now I like the slightly used "look". :thumbup:
 
Well,...it's been almost THREE years and I really thought there'd be LOTS of posts to this thread with others modding their CRKT RMJ 2730 Chogan T-Hawks!
WHAT???? Nuttin!!!

SO POST'um if You "Gots" Some! hehe

Joe T
Ti Rod Tactical
(Made in USA Titanium Self Defense Yawara Sticks with Fist-Lock™)
 
Well,...it's been almost THREE years and I really thought there'd be LOTS of posts to this thread with others modding their CRKT RMJ 2730 Chogan T-Hawks!
WHAT???? Nuttin!!!

SO POST'um if You "Gots" Some! hehe

Joe T
Ti Rod Tactical
(Made in USA Titanium Self Defense Yawara Sticks with Fist-Lock™)

Joe, I wonder if it is just that no one has done work comparable to yours?

Your work on that poll is quite outstanding :thumbsup:
 
Thanks,...but even if nobody wanted to tackle the crosshatching of the hammer end, I would have thought some folks would have stripped the paint at least (which I realize also removes the name, and therefore maybe a deal breaker for some folks?),...and spent a few hours with some various grit sandpapers and a Brewsky or five! :)
Since these are still around $40 Bucks or so,....there's not much you can mess up, especially if you prefer a really clean and smoothed up Hawk like I do.

The fact is, Factories can't spend the time to make you a really "great", visually inspiring piece,...so YOU have to be inspired to "git-r-done", and this make and model has one of the best "Cores" from which to work if you're willing to put some time and basic hand sanding work into. Even the heated Apple Cider Vinegar "Blue" is really easy.

Oh,...looking back on this old thread inspired ME last night to finally "get-r-done" in a different way, and I picked up a custom edge cover in Black Leather for the old girl. (Brown is also available, link below) I could have made one, as I have made sheaths in the past. But I was out of leather and snaps, and I also like to support workers Made in the USA Products, especially now that I've become one also. :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Tomah...387149&hash=item35daa62562:g:KFEAAOSwwpdW7J-A

Yep, at $32.50 shipped almost as much as the old girl cost too,....but then putting a lady into a tight fitting "skirt" has always been part a guy's favorite way of keeping a low,...or "high maintenance" lady happy. :)

Cheers,

Joe T
Ti Rod Tactical™
 
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I recently purchased one and nearing completion on the mod. I would post some pics, but don't see a way to upload.
 
I recently purchased one and nearing completion on the mod. I would post some pics, but don't see a way to upload.
You need to down load to a hosting site like flicker ect(not photo bucket) and copy the URL and either put it in the post by the image icon above or simply copy and paste straight into your response.
 
i'd encourage you all to leave or refine the sharp 90 degree edge at the top of the eye. when making a field replacement for the handle, if you make a light/shallow relief cut around its circumference where you expect the head to seat, you can then let that sharp edge cut itself down to the correct spot...and of course you can use it to make other dowel/peg like things, etc...

now i'm just waiting for someone to make a super-legit peace pipe mod...tee hee.
 
I modded a brand new Chogan a few years ago, I am on a new computer but I can post up a few photos later. I hand sanded off the paint and coating, removed the hammer poll and crosshatched the flat, put a better edge on the beard and primary edges, forced a patina with ACV, woodburned, stained and polished the handle, then had a local leathersmith make a sheath. Handles like a dream and I am pretty happy with the results as it was my first time taking on a modification project like that.
 
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