Crock Sticks VS Sharpmaker VS Slide Sharp

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I have heard good things about all of the above.
What I am trying to do now is decide which of the rod systems to go with for sharpening:
Lansky Crock Sticks
OR
Spyderco Sharpmaker (Basic System)
OR
CRKT Slide Sharp

I have noticed that the Spyderco System costs more, but was wondering if it is worth the difference in price since it has a number of alternatives rods you can buy for it.

Any thoughts on this? Has someone used all 3 of these?

Thanks. :eek:
 
Thinking about this lot as well but also considering the lansky delux system.

Not sure if i'd be better off with some bench hones though. Maybe arkansas stones or something by DMT.
 
I had a Lansky. It did very well on standard size blades (like the size of a Buck 110 blade). The Lansky (actually all clamp systems) has problems with small blades (such as the Turkish Clip of an Uncle Henry 897UH). The problem is that the small height of the blade causes the stones to scrape the clamp instead of the edge of the blade. Additionally, the Lansky will not keep a consistent angle on very long blades due to the arc of having to cover a long distance. Again, this is a shortcoming of all clamp/guide systems.

I am an "old school" sharpener, so I love benchstones. BUT, the Sharpmaker sure makes for a very effective sharpening experience without the mess of oils. After trying just about everything (except the EdgePro - which I feel is as good as it gets), I have settled on a Coarse DMT DiaSharp benchstone for the hard work, and then I finish and polish with the Sharpmaker (using the Brown, White Fine, and White UltraFine rods), and finally a good strop.

In my humble opinion, you will not find a better crock-stick style unit than the Sharpmaker. The various rod combinations and angle combinations make it the best of these type systems available.

Arkansas stones do a great job, but it's hard to beat the Sharpmaker when you consider cost (to get the equivalent grit on Arkansas stones, you'd have to go to Black Hard, which tend to get fairly expensive). And, once you go to the UltraFine stones on the Sharpmaker, it is hard to find an equivalent Arkansas Black Surgical without laying out serious cash.

If you insist on using benchstones, I highly recommend the Razor Edge clamps to get you started with the proper angle and technique. Get the regular guide for medium and larger blades, and the cub guide for smaller pocket knive blades.

The Sharpmaker is one of those things that the more you use it, the better the edge becomes. You will always get a sharp blade with it, but as you continue to touch up your edges more and more, the edge just seems to get better and better as the complete bevel matches the Sharpmaker stones.
 
I'd like to give you even another choice AG russel also sells a crock stick system. :) I'll bet most have the Spyderco's I don't have any of them I don't care for them much the stroke just seems wierd to me for sharpening. Good luck.
 
Excellent description and advice Ted!! :thumbup:

I am not as much of a sharpening guru as Ted so I will add that if you are still in the "learning phase" of sharpening then the Sharpmaker is the way to go (as it is almost idiot proof).
 
i hate my crock stick, it only puts an edge on already sharp knives, it takes a while to get there, and it seems that I am always having to resharpen.

Joe
 
My vote is for the Sharpmaker. Follow the simple instructions and it works the very first time. It is the personification of the k.i.s.s. principle. :thumbup:
 
In 35 years of buying, trading, and using knives the Sharpmaker is by far the best 40 bucks I've ever spent on a knife accessory. It keeps everything I own razor sharp. (I also own an edge pro which is an outstanding system but I rarely use it since don't I generally let my knives get very dull before I resharpen them on the Sharpmaker.)
 
edgepros work very well but the SM is much simpler to use, i too say best $40 i ever spent on sharpening equipment.
 
Spyderco Sharpmaker gets my vote for inexpensive, quick, light touch-ups. It is my most often used sharpener, since I try to keep my edges close to sharp and not let them get too trashed. Less than a minute on the SM restores edges nicely. But reprofiling an edge with this is tedious, to say the least. Note: I do not have the diamond rods for this, only the two grits of ceramic triangular rods. Nonetheless, it remains my most recommended sharpener to folks who are just starting out, since it is pretty much idiot-proof, as noted above. Which is good for me. ;) :D

Edge-Pro Apex (cheaper model) with the stone upgrade works okay for rather precise angle control and repeatability. It's okay for reprofiling an edge, but the coarse stone wears away rather quickly, compared to oil stones. For serious reprofiling though, my choice is now motorized belt grinders, hands down the most efficient way to re-form an edge. Edge-Pro is basically water stones mounted on slabs of aluminum. I like it enough that I bought a spare when one came up on the secondary market. If you get it from Ben Dale (president of Edge-Pro), you'll be dealing with one of the very best customer service guys I've ever found online. He is very forthcoming with info and very patient in answering questions about his product.

Another alternative is the Warthog V-Sharp spring-loaded sliding diamond rod system from South Africa. It offers multiple grits of rods and three sharpening angles - 17°, 20° and 25° - that sharpen the blade on both sides simultaneously. I've seen it locally at gun/knife shows for about $80.

If you have more time than money, learning to hand-sharpen on oilstones can be a fairly cheap way to go.

If you're willing to spend serious cash and are searching for the ultimate polished edge, Japanese waterstones work well for a manual system. I have a mix of brands, including King and Norton brand man-made stones, as well as some brands I don't know since I can't read the Japanese kanji on the stones. If I could afford them, I'd go with Shapton stones. For fantasy-land, there are the multi-thousand-dollar-per-stone extraordinarily rare natural stones from specific quarries in Japan. But those top-end stones, like some exotic cars, are sold only to cognoscenti whom the stone makers already know by reputation. You don't just walk in off the street and get one on demand.

Bottom Line: Spyderco Sharpmaker for touch-ups. Stones (your choice of Edge-Pro, oil, or water) for intermediate reworking. Belt grinders for serious hogging off of metal.

(edit to add) Here's a stone holding jig for either oil or water stones you already have laying around. It's sort of a "poor man's Sharpmaker" that is pretty easily fabricated out of scraps of wood, especially if you know a woodworker with either a table saw or miter saw.

stone-jig.jpg
 
I have some other ceramic V-rod sharpeners and I resisted buying a Sharpmaker setup for years. I reasoned that they were all basically the same. Then I got a Sharpmaker and noticed a dramatic improvement in the edges that I got on several knives. I think that Sal does a great job of engineering/selecting the ceramic used in the Sharpmaker rods. The grit leaves a great finish. In addition the flat-sided rods seem to leave a better edge finish than the round rods used by competing brands. I think this is particularly true if you apply a bit more pressure than you should on the round rods. The contact area on the round rods is very small and can cause excessive pressure on a delicate edge. And finally the honing angles that Sal chose are better (more accute) than you find on most V-rod holders. Sal sets up the Sharpmaker to do a sophisticated job of honing. The other brands pick more obtuse angles for quick-and-dirty sharpening.

PS, The triangular rods are one of the few tools that do a quick and acceptable job of sharpening serations.
 
Another vote for the Sharpmaker. It's the most practical sharpener I've found for the amount you pay. Serrations or plain edge, shears, clippers; I sharpened everything in my house after watching the accompanying video. A quick touch up on the fine stones every few weeks helps to keep my favorite edges polished.

Everyone else here has pretty much summed up what I think about the practicality of the Sharpmaker. Heck, I'm thinking about a few as Christmas presents for my family! :thumbup:
 
if ya need to reprofile and dont have the diamond rods for the SM get some emery cloth in a fairly coarse grit, wrap it on the rods secured with rubber bands or tape and go for it, works pretty good imho.
 
I like both, but the Idahone seems to put a better edge on my knives and has longer stones.

cliff
 
It's nice to have both Sharpmaker and CrockSticks. The Sharpmaker's primary advantage IMO is the triangular shape of the rods -- flats good for certain things, corners for others. Advantages of a full size CrockSticks setup are longer rods, and the fact that by rotating the base you can easily get just about any sharpening angle you want.
 
Do not waste your time with CRKT Slide Sharp.
I tried, but it does not sharpen well!
I know how to sharpen free hand, but these were a waste of time and money.
Better off with a couple of stones and oil for 1/2 the price.
 
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