Crow Knife Holds Dog At Bay

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Well well, all these pesky blades; you know? The ones designed by a military industrial-complex-corporation-paternal-chauvinist-conspiracy for feelings of inadequacy, CAME THROUGH quite handily today as a useful tool and companion in the woods.

The Kid and Carter were on the cliffs above, looking for a cave I knew about. Taylor and Trav, my six year old, were in the forest below checking out whatever needed their inspection, when a large Golden Retriever ran over to them. The dog was not nice. They were on public land but the dog thought otherwise. He was not even local to the area, I found out shortly afterwards, but belonged to a construction crew loading equipment at a house far below the kid's hiking area.

HE would not let them alone. The initial commands to stop and desist were ignored. He was baring his teeth, tail beneath legs, barking and growling at them, and kept fronting them. Taylor said he was drooling a lot, with spittle and foam. She remarked upon this enough for me to wonder about rabies. I doubt it; but you never know. Trav drew his small bilton, a gift from Yangdu, and Taylor had a knife she's grown to like very much; the 15" Crow knife.
Am I serious? Is this Silly? If the kids were upset enough to pull their steel, what do you think? Why would some damn dog keep at it?

Taylor had to directly confront him. She held the Crow knife and gestured with it towards the dog. Dog reacted- he backed away from the knife, his eyes on her hand. This went on as they tried to leave the area. Taylor held the dog off with the knife while Trav ran to the barbed wire fence. He slipped through, she followed, and not long afterwards I pulled up with the truck.

No, it's not a major motion picture, but for all the times I've gotten long looks from my liberal parents about carrying a firearm or khuk out of doors, it answered the question very nicely.

You probably don't need to carry a firearm or knife. But if you ever do need one, it is absolutely the correct tool and is irreplaceable- as are our lives and health.


munk
 
I always say, wherever you go, there's always four things you need. A lighter, a pen, a flashlight, and a good knife. Glad they had theirs, dogs can get pretty vicious if they want to.
 
You probably don't need to carry a firearm or knife. But if you ever do need one, it is absolutely the correct tool and is irreplaceable- as are our lives and health
As the old saying goes: Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it!:D
 
Khukuris are standard dog defense in the hills of Nepal. At least they were in the 70's, and I suspect they still are.

A knock on the noggin will take one out. The guides had stories, which I believe after running into some local dogs.
 
When I was a kid I always felt safe in the woods cause we always had our knives. As we got older we always took a machete:thumbup:

Munk,

Pics of the cave or looking off of those cliff sometime?:thumbup: :D
 
You know, Hollow, if you ever make it to Yellowstone, I would not throw you off the front porch if you showed up at the munk compound. I might even invite you in to sleep in the guest room and feed you in the morning. At such a time, I could set you on your way to exploring a ba-zillion caves, many unknown. But I have no pictures, alas.


For some reason, these limestone hills are pocked with more than their share of caves, even for limestone.


munk
 
Im glad everything turned out okay. I walk my dog everyday, and I always have a couple of blades with me, mostly for the hostile dogs that roam the area. I see firearms and blades like I see a seatbelt, you hope you never have to use it for a violent purpose, but it is there if you need it.

Your children did an awesome job of keeping cool. Good on them. Im sure that Crow knife would have done the trick, that is one big hunk of steel.
 
Glad all's well, too.

Those seem some sturdy youngins. And an impressive getaway, a Himalayan Imports fire and maneuver!

Take care.
 
A strange agressive dog and no-one but themselves in the immediate vicinity ?
I think they handled themselves very well .
 
This is the first nasty golden retriever story I have heard.
I always thought that they were wimps.

With any breed, there are large individual differences.
 
Great they turned out OK. Good thing they had the sense not to run.

When I was a kid there was this local group of wild dogs that scared us up a tree one day. It was one of two time I've been chased up a tree. The other time it was a hog. We were stuck up there for hours with the hog who just laid down under the tree and waited for us. The dogs were quickly bored, and left after only a few minutes. What struck me was the differences between these dogs. No 2 the same looking. None bigger than a cayote, one as small as a large beagle. Body and breed/mix types were varied. I thought that was odd. There were maybe 8 or 9 total. As I said we were only stuck in the tree maybe a half hour, and that was mostly a just in case period. They weren't really 'after' us either. We'd heard of them, and saw them, got into the tree. They came over and checked it out, then moved along. It wasn't like this snarling chase that ended in a near miss. The hog was scarier, we were lucky we had enough time to get into the tree, and there was a younger boy with us that day, so there was a lot of sobbing and trying to shut him up. Neither time was a face off possible, or wise. Nor did I have anything bigger than a pelet gun, which was hastily dropped while getting into the tree.
 
You have taught them well, Munk. I like sjamboks for dogs. Good reach and hurts like hell across the snout. Have killed snakes with them too. Two legged pain-in-the-asses don't care much for it either.
Terry
 
Clint Eastwood's classic line comes to mind ... "Nothing like a nice piece of hickory."

Glad she had what came to hand, and that it served her. Me, I might want the extra bit of reach that a piece of hickory would afford ...
 
You've taught your kids well...since I've always got a sword with me I can see the gut's they've got to stand and fight.:thumbup:

The only difference I see if it was me is the dog would've been in deep,I tend to attack when challenged and a going-berserk guy with a sword is a sight to see!

Planning on another cutlass soon...no knuckle guard so's I can carry it in more places.
 
I am glad it turned out OK.
Your kids kept their cool, used their head and had some tools to keep the dog at bay.

Good thinking and preparation.:thumbup:

Now, thinking in retrospect, a truly rabid dog would have not been afraid.

A longer hiking staff could help to keep a dog away.
 
A personal hiking staff is a fine thing, isn't it? Weapon and assistant, friend and defender when called upon.

I'd add to Little Knife's assessment of rabid dog behavior that he is correct, except for the small percent of the time when the sick addled dog behaves in another way entirely. In other words, rabid dogs can do anything. Show fear, not show fear, friendly one minute, hostile the next, etc.

But that is the number one identifier on sight of rabies, isn't it; the lack of concern a wild animal has about humans? No longer afraid.



munk
 
Glad nobody got nipped, though I'm told that the rabies shots are no longer quite the ordeal they once were. No longer the set of 27 injections to the abdomen over 2 days ...

FWIW, a farmer friend and his wife on another forum got the series last year, and the immunity stays in the blood for some time. Got tested this Spring again, and the doc said he was safe to immobilize rabid raccoons with greco-roman wrestling techniques if it turned his crank.
 
I heard that too, Tom. Some of the younger forumites might not know the old rabies treatment was not looked forward to by anyone...

The weapon of choice for a rabid animal has got to be a firearm. But I'll take a knife over my bare hands any day.




munk
 
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