Cudeman

kamagong

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Here's one I thought my fellow forumites might like, a Cudeman. Cudeman doesn't have a name for this knife, simply the model number 408. On their website it is categorized as an "estilete," the Spanish word for stiletto. Makes sense, this looks to be nothing more than a Spanish-made Corsican vendetta.

She's a fair size at 11 cm closed, 20 cm OAL. Fit and finish isn't perfect, but it is pretty good, especially for the price. That's no indictment, this is a working knife from peasant origins.

I got this for a few reasons. First, I've long had my eye on the Corsican Vendetta. Just a beautiful, elegant design. I never pulled the trigger because most I've seen had the Testa di Moro stamped or etched on the blade. I couldn't get past it. I don't know if an elephant is any better, but you can't have it all. Second, I've recently been feeling the new knife itch. You guys know what I'm talking about, that feeling that has you surfing eBay, checking the GEC New Releases page, or stalking the local flea markets and antique shops. This knife scratched the itch at a low cost. Third and most importantly, I needed a new wine and cheese knife. I live an hour away from one of the world's great winemaking regions, California's Napa Valley. My wife loves to visit the vineyards there, and when we do it's a good idea to have a sharp knife for cheese, bread, and assorted charcuterie. The last few jaunts I just used the knife in my pocket, but always ended up wishing my knife was a tad bit longer. This one fits the bill nicely.

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Finish is uneven. The blade-to-spring transition is smooth and flush, but the bolster-to-cover transition less so. There was a noticeable gap between wood and metal that was filled in at the factory.

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Bolster contouring could use some improvement too. I would have contoured the ventral part of the bolster first so it could have been better blended with the profile, but what do I know? I'm a knife user, not a knife maker.

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Even with the imperfections this is still a very nice knife. Solidly built with stainless steel furniture, there is no blade play at all. On a scale of 1-10, the pull is a reassuring six and easily pinched open. Walk and talk is smooth, the result of the polished cam tang. I've already flushed the joint of black gunk and added a couple coats of oil to the olivewood covers. With a little more massaging she'll soon be ready for our next trip to Napa.
 
Enjoyable post Christian, I also find the Vendetta an interesting and attractive pattern :thumbsup:
 
Having a decent food & drinks knife is a must :cool: Crusty bread, some decent cheeses, dried meats, fruits and wine always demands a good slicer.

The finish on this knife looks OK to me, rustic/rugged but so long as the blade opens/closes smoothly, slices well and feels good in the hand it is all in place. You could work on the bolster if so inclined with paper and a strop, a fine new addition :thumbsup:
 
Nice knife, Christian. :thumbsup: I like the olive wood. It certainly looks like a good day-at-the-vineyard knife. How’s the thinness of the blade (compared to, say, an Opinel)?
 
I hope the vineyard folk don't faint at the sight of it.
I have one I bought in person from a shop that is no more. It's built very like a Sabot, also reminds me of my no-name stainless lambsfoot.
Mine has a sort of wrinkle in it, which doesn't hurt its function at all, though I wouldn't mind if it weren't there.
I'll be back with a picture.
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This gap on the left or lower in this pic side is what I was calling a wrinkle. If my own flaws were no more major, I'd be doing all right.

It is a lovely knife. Thanks kamagong kamagong for reminding me.
Stainless blade is shadowed, not patinated:
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Pretty similar thickness to a broadly similar Opinel.
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Interesting knife. Thanks for the write up.

You're welcome. Thought I'd bring the forum's attention to a traditional knife design we don't see often.

Enjoyable post Christian, I also find the Vendetta an interesting and attractive pattern :thumbsup:

Yes it is Jack. :thumbsup:

Having a decent food & drinks knife is a must :cool: Crusty bread, some decent cheeses, dried meats, fruits and wine always demands a good slicer.

The blade is stainless too Will. No name stainless, but that shouldn't pose a problem given its intended use. So no crypto rust on this knife.

It is also called Cudeman Vendetta.

Where did you get that? I went to Cudeman's English-language website, and there is no reference at all to the Vendetta. It's obvious the knife is a Vendetta-design, but Cudeman doesn't call it that.

Nice knife, Christian. :thumbsup: I like the olive wood. It certainly looks like a good day-at-the-vineyard knife. How’s the thinness of the blade (compared to, say, an Opinel)?

I don't have an Opinel on hand to compare it to, but from what I remember the blade is thicker than an 8.

I hope the vineyard folk don't faint at the sight of it.
I have one I bought in person from a shop that is no more. It's built very like a Sabot, also reminds me of my no-name stainless lambsfoot.
Mine has a sort of wrinkle in it, which doesn't hurt its function at all, though I wouldn't mind if it weren't there.
I'll be back with a picture.
Fgjl0nV.jpg

This gap on the left or lower in this pic side is what I was calling a wrinkle. If my own flaws were no more major, I'd be doing all right.

I don't see what they'd fuss about. It's basically a folding paring knife. :cool:

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My knife has gaps too. I wish they weren't there, but then again the only slipjoints I have without gaps are my customs. I don't think they're that bad given that this is a ~ $25 knife we're talking about.

 

Those appear to be vendors. But on Cudeman's actual site, neither their Spanish or English page names it as a vendetta.

http://cudeman.com/producto/ref-409-l/
http://cudeman.com/en/producto/sku-409-l/
 
True, only one reference appears on the official website, but here we all know them by Vendetta.

You're located in Spain correct? Do many people carry knives like this still? Or are they frowned upon due to their association with quarrelsome folk?
 
You're located in Spain correct? Do many people carry knives like this still? Or are they frowned upon due to their association with quarrelsome folk?
Yes I am in Spain.
Unfortunately in my country what is frowned upon is someone carrying a knife. Any knife. The law is quite restrictive.
That knife is not a Spanish pattern, it derives from the "Vendetta Corsa".
http://corsicavivilaadesso.it/post/11051501202KLqu7kW/la-vendetta-corsa-storie-di-lame-e-tradizioni/
http://www.coltelleriasaladini.it/prodotti/vendetta-corsa/
 
Very nice knife Christian.

I'm not refined enough for NAPA Valley. I have to go to the Sierra Nevada Brewery near Chico. If you want cheese there, you have to take your own piece of Kraft Single Slice cheese and your own "Slim Jim" pepperoni stick. No bread.
 
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Yes I am in Spain.
Unfortunately in my country what is frowned upon is someone carrying a knife. Any knife. The law is quite restrictive.
That knife is not a Spanish pattern, it derives from the "Vendetta Corsa".
http://corsicavivilaadesso.it/post/11051501202KLqu7kW/la-vendetta-corsa-storie-di-lame-e-tradizioni/
http://www.coltelleriasaladini.it/prodotti/vendetta-corsa/
The folding Vendetta is an invention of Thiers cutlers, after Prosper Mérimée's Colomba novel who popularized the name in the middle XIXth century, to retail to tourists in Corsica as souvenirs, the pattern, probably inspired by Genovese daggers, has not been registered is produced anywhere with variable quality. (https://www.lecouteau.info/couteaux-régionaux-traditionnels/les-couteaux-corses/)
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An industrial made in Thiers
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Hand made by Fontenille-Pataud for Zuria (Corsica).
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