Cure potion for infections: GSE

[Jamesh Bond]

Grapefruit Seed Extract. Bout 12 bucks a bottle. Kills bacteria, fungus, and many viruses.

Seriously, this stuff is awesome. Too good to be true. Before you write me off as a hippie, let me share.

I am pretty hard won and skeptical. Short story is when i was 19, i had a gross rug burn on my elbow. Turned into blood poisoning overnight. Purple and huge, with three lines running up my arm already on my chest. It was late, ER was expensive, and Dial-A-Nurse said GET THERE ANYWAY. My mom had always been interested in random natural herbalness, and had just discovered Grapefruit Seed Extract. I drank 30 drops that night and applied it to the wound. I could literally feel the heat and sizzle while it worked. Creepy. I kid you not, the next morning it was GONE. Just a pink trace. I took it the next three days to be safe, and it never returned.

Since then, i have never been without this stuff. I get bronchitis with every cold or flu the second day. Blood, green crap, and tearing agony. If i take GSE, the infection is gone in a day. If i dont, more like five. It really seems to shorten the overall viral period too.
I have personally seen it cure dog bite infections, ear infections, antibiotic resistant strep throat (several cases), bad athletes foot, kidney infections, the list goes on. I have never seen it not work when given the chance. And it usually takes no more than three days entirely. Wicked stuff. You can supposedly purify water with it too. While i dont doubt this, i would still be wary of chemicals and crypto. When i need it, i take 30 drops morning and night. It tastes horrible, but the flavor disappears in orange juice. Its highly acidic, so dilute it a bit if youre applying it to skin. As with any med, if you are taking something, make sure it doesnt have a grapefruit interaction, just to be safe.

Anyway, i wanted to share this with those of you who are open minded. It really seems like the majority of people i preach this to refuse to accept it since it is so cheap and effective, and i cant help get butthurt about it. Ok then, go ahead and spend hundreds on a doctor, and days of your life in agony on antibiotics since you refuse to spend one day trying something that can cure you overnight, and set you back 12 bucks in the highly unlikely event it doesnt work. If the ramblings if a crazy forum guy arent enough, google it.

YMMV, but like i said, i have NEVER seen this stuff not work. It has literally saved me thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of misery. Just because i gave it the chance once. This stuff is INVALUABLE. I hope this will help some of you.

 

[Shotgun]

...google it.

Anecdotal claims for an antimicrobial effect are based on a few abstract scientific experiments which show some antimicrobial activity for commercial grapefruit seed extracts and an ethanol grapefruit seed extract but not a natural GSE.[17][18][19] The preliminary studies for the antimicrobial effect state that the Citricidal commercial brand of GSE was used for testing.[17][18] There is considerable scientific evidence that the anti-microbial activity associated with grapefruit seed extract is attributable to the contamination or adulteration of commercial GSE preparations with synthetic antimicrobials or preservatives.[2] According to the 2001 GSE study, branded commercial GSE preparations were contaminated with synthetic benzethonium chloride that was implausible to be made from grapefruit seeds.[5] Some of the marketers claimed that their product does not contain benzethonium chloride and the error was due to the similarity in molecular weight of the quaternary ammonium compound which was formed through a proprietary manufacturing process.[5] It is inconceivable that the preservative benzethonium chloride is formed during any extraction and/or processing of grapefruit seeds and pulp.[5] Researchers conclusively demonstrated the presence of benzethonium chloride in commercial GSE using various analytical methods including HPLC, one- and two-dimensional NMR, PIXE analysis, and electrospray ionization MS.[5] Another in vitro study claimed GSE had antibacterial properties.[19] As with the branded in vitro test[17][18] this extract was contaminated.[5] The ethanolic grapefruit seed and pulp extract tested was prepared or contaminated with ethanol, a chemical solvent used in the extraction process.[19] Ethanol, also known as ethyl alcohol, is effective in inhibiting bacteria.[20]

Independent studies have shown some commercial preparations to contain the compound benzalkonium chloride, which is a synthetic antimicrobial commonly used in disinfectants and cleaning products, the related compound benzethonium chloride, the antibiotic triclosan, or the preservative methylparaben.[1][6][21] Some samples were shown to contain up to 22% benzalkonium chloride by weight, despite the known allergenicity[22] and toxicity[23] of the compound at higher doses.[6] These chemicals were not present in grapefruit seed extracts prepared in the laboratory, and GSE preparations without the contaminants were found to possess no detectable antimicrobial effect.[1] Although citrus seed extract is sold in health food markets,[6] there is no good evidence for any natural antimicrobial activity.[1][7]
A study that examined the antiviral properties of GSE found that GSE had no efficacy as a disinfectant for feline calicivirus and feline parvovirus.[24] Grapefruit seed extract has been advocated to be a powerful antimicrobial with proven activity against bacteria and fungi. However, independent studies have shown the efficacy of grapefruit seed extract as an antimicrobial is not demonstrated. Although citrus seed extract is claimed to be a highly effective plant-based preservative by some natural personal care manufacturers, studies asserted that the universal antimicrobial benefits associated with GSE are merely from the presence of synthetic preservatives. Natural GSE has no antimicrobial properties.[1][2] Newer studies found many commercial grapefruit seed extracts contaminated with synthetic preservatives.[8][9][10] In a 2007 study the main synthetic antimicrobial agent identified in commercial GSE samples was benzethonium chloride.[8] In a 2008 study synthetic disinfectants such as benzethonium or benzalkonium chloride were identified in most of the commercial GSE products.[9] In a 2008 study suspected counterfeit products were determined to contain benzethonium chloride in grapefruit seed extract samples.[10]

 

[Jamesh Bond]

My anecdotal claims are based on my anecdotal factual experience. You can google anything and find "evidence" both ways. The intention was to share something valuable with the hopes it will be useful to those willing to give it a try. You dont have to agree or try it, but the attempt to discount my testimony with a random google result comes across as rude, pointless, and argumentative. All the more so if youve never given it a shot. Plenty of positive google results out there too. We cant all be making it up.

It consistently works for me, and everyone i know who uses it.

 

[Codger_64]

When I got an infected cut on my finger I just showed it to my wife and soaked it in cider.

 

[Codger_64]

My anecdotal claims are based on my anecdotal factual experience. You can google anything and find "evidence" both ways. The intention was to share something valuable with the hopes it will be useful to those willing to give it a try. You dont have to agree or try it, but the attempt to discount my testimony with a random google result comes across as rude, pointless, and argumentative. All the more so if youve never given it a shot. Plenty of positive google results out there too. We cant all be making it up.

It consistently works for me, and everyone i know who uses it.

You said "Google it" and he did.

 

[CapitalizedLiving]

My anecdotal claims are based on my anecdotal factual experience. You can google anything and find "evidence" both ways. The intention was to share something valuable with the hopes it will be useful to those willing to give it a try. You dont have to agree or try it, but the attempt to discount my testimony with a random google result comes across as rude, pointless, and argumentative. All the more so if youve never given it a shot. Plenty of positive google results out there too. We cant all be making it up.

It consistently works for me, and everyone i know who uses it.

It might work due to the presence of benzethonium chloride as a preserving agent. That's kinda what Shotgun's copy/paste bit was saying.

Here is a link to a study report:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10399191

 

[Jamesh Bond]

You said "Google it" and he did.

Posting a counterclaim with no personal testimony comes across as negative. If I interpreted that incorrectly, apologies. Nothing wrong with research.

Again. The purpose of this thread is to share neat info based on my experience. Not to debate the validity of it.

 

[Codger_64]

Posting a counterclaim with no personal testimony comes across as negative. If I interpreted that incorrectly, apologies. Nothing wrong with research.

Again. The purpose of this thread is to share neat info based on my experience. Not to debate the validity of it.

Ah but... when one posts in an open discussion forum one invites discussion!

 

[Jamesh Bond]

Trying to discredit personal experience is not "discussion." Nor is it conducive to the theme of this thread.

Anyway ...
Good luck to anyone who finds this interesting. I really hope it proves to be as valuable to some of you as it has been for me.

Thx.

 

[Krav]

This is good to know. I'm also into alot of natural remedies.

I will pick up some grapefruit seed extract to keep around, just in case.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

 

[gadgetgeek]

As long as it WORKs do what you like. However, when things don't work, or are not working quickly, or might not be quite right, don't delay actual medical care. Infections kill people. I appreciate that feeling like you have more control in a situation like that where you live in a place that decides what medical help you get is based on your income. But I can tell you this for a fact. Medical people want to help. Most "herbal" manufactures like your money. Just know who's hand is in your pocket when you decide what pills to take.

Also if you cough up blood from bronchitis, there is something more wrong. Don't care if its a "normal" thing for you, thats not a normal thing, I'd be very concerned that you have something else.

 

[Codger_64]

Trying to discredit personal experience is not "discussion." Nor is it conducive to the theme of this thread.

Anyway ...
Good luck to anyone who finds this interesting. I really hope it proves to be as valuable to some of you as it has been for me.

Thx.

You claim of personal experience has not been attacked. If you believe this works for you then more power to you. But people here have a right to discuss opposing views on any topic presented. Including this one, the "miracle of citrus seed extract".

 

[Jamesh Bond]

As long as it WORKs do what you like. However, when things don't work, or are not working quickly, or might not be quite right, don't delay actual medical care. Infections kill people. I appreciate that feeling like you have more control in a situation like that where you live in a place that decides what medical help you get is based on your income. But I can tell you this for a fact. Medical people want to help. Most "herbal" manufactures like your money. Just know who's hand is in your pocket when you decide what pills to take.

Also if you cough up blood from bronchitis, there is something more wrong. Don't care if its a "normal" thing for you, thats not a normal thing, I'd be very concerned that you have something else.

Very wise statements, and i agree completely. They attest to why people are so reluctant to hear it. And to why im almost always highly skeptical of herbal and alternative treatments. Lotta snake oil out there. GSE is a rare anomaly.

Thanks for the concern. Ive discussed the bronchitis with my doctors over the years, and keep up on it. A little blood is common with raging throat and chest infections. Not good, but normal.

 

[jdk1]

I find it interesting. Like the queen honey bee stuff, though I cannot recall what it's called (Royal Jelly?). It's supposed to be a powerful natural antibacterial. I believe raw honey has some of this property also. Ultimately, the issue of wilderness injuries was resolved by Dave Canterbury. Just pour in some black powder and ignite! Simple. Though it might not be appropriate for your bronchitis...

 

[Krav]

As long as it WORKs do what you like. However, when things don't work, or are not working quickly, or might not be quite right, don't delay actual medical care. Infections kill people. I appreciate that feeling like you have more control in a situation like that where you live in a place that decides what medical help you get is based on your income. But I can tell you this for a fact. Medical people want to help. Most "herbal" manufactures like your money. Just know who's hand is in your pocket when you decide what pills to take.

Also if you cough up blood from bronchitis, there is something more wrong. Don't care if its a "normal" thing for you, thats not a normal thing, I'd be very concerned that you have something else.

The Pharma business is a business. Both sides take money from us. I definatly wouldn't play around with something serious, I also know enough to go either way. Alot of the new medicine that works best use both.

 

[Krav]

I find it interesting. Like the queen honey bee stuff, though I cannot recall what it's called (Royal Jelly?). It's supposed to be a powerful natural antibacterial. I believe raw honey has some of this property also. Ultimately, the issue of wilderness injuries was resolved by Dave Canterbury. Just pour in some black powder and ignite! Simple. Though it might not be appropriate for your bronchitis...

manuka honey is the best. taking just this, probably wont do much. changing your diet, eating fresh garlic, lemons, elderberry, among other things boost your immune system. Our immune system is our first line of defense against colds, viruses, bacteria, diseases.

But again, If your in a pickle get professional help. After antibiotics its important to get good bacteria (flora) back into our body, about 80% that is in our gut.

 

[Cougar Allen]

Posting a counterclaim with no personal testimony comes across as negative. If I interpreted that incorrectly, apologies. Nothing wrong with research.

Again. The purpose of this thread is to share neat info based on my experience. Not to debate the validity of it.

Actually, the purpose of forums is precisely to debate the validity of info. That's why we have a reply button.

 

[Codger_64]

Actually, the purpose of forums is precisely to debate the validity of info. That's why we have a reply button.

I never have gotten the concept of thread ownership by an OP. My bad.

 

[c.t.smith]

As much as some herbal remedies aid in the healing process.

Modern medicine has taken us from living to an average age in our 20s to remarkable ages of 100+ (of course there are other factors such as nutrition living conditions)