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Greetings,
I'm new to busse/swkw, but I've jumped in head first. I have a ratweiler, and I just got a badger attack and I am expecting a NARK anyday. I have a question though. How does the SR101 stack up against say carbon V, 1095, and some of the newer stainless steels like S30V and 154CM. I live near a mastersmith who uses forged 52100(Charles Ochs), and gives it high marks. INFI is interesting as well. Any info would be appreciated.....Thanks...Jim
 
I guess, you wont find much of a difference between the shorter SR101 blades and those made from carbon V. Maybe there is a small difference in edge holding if you look at 1095. Another aspect may be, that 1095 is as a simple steel used on cheaper knifes. That doesn´t mean the steel is crap, no way i like pure steels, but maybe there is a little less spend on good heat treatment, which is the key to a great knife.

On larger blades you will find an advantage between the differentially heat treated (Hard edge / softer spine) SR101 compared to the fully hardened carbonV or 1095 blades.

Usually i stay away from comparing stainless to non stainless.

You should decide, which properties a blade shall have and then choose the steel.

Shall it be stainless? Then choose among stainless.

Are there other properties like toughness, wear resistance, strength, there are a lot of steel grades to take from. Every steel featuring tungsten is good on wear resistance and if it is held low aroud 1% you still get a tough blade. Stainless always means a trade off of toughness.

You need a hamon (to see the different hardness between edge and spine) japanese style?

Take a steel like 1095, as less on alloys as possible.

You need a chopper? Take one with low carbon best: a steel with .6% carbon and nothing else.

High speed steels, which are very highly alloied steels, are showing a great strength, which means it takes a lot to break them. But they would hardly bend before breaking. Considering the spine thickness it don´t has to be the best choice. But they hold a very good edge (edc - like) forever.

Razorblades? Good heat treated 1095 or a thing like that as a bearing steel gives you the finest edge.

Something inbetween? Hard to say. There is a lot out there. I guess the most unimportant property is stainless. If you want a reasonable fine edge, D2 shouldn´t be your choice.

Myself own a Bandicoot and some blades made from that stainless. Looking at the edge they take, the SR101 is the finest edge.

S30V takes a nice edge too but turns to a rougher edge after a while. The hair comes off the arm, but its not what i would call cutting. :D

The 154CM takes a bit better edge. Didn´t get it dull so far but that particular blade is a bit softer i think, so its hard to compare.

For more try the FAQ.
 
Tidefan,
I'm glad that you stopped by the Swamp.

We have tested our knives extensively and other people have also done some extreme testing on our knives. Many of these tests can be found at www.swampshack.com If I were you I'd read through those tests, look at the pictures we have taken during testing and then ask the other manufacturers of knives you are interested in for the same. I know that Busse has posted many pics in the past of what there knives can handle, however, many others just "talk the talk" I prefer visual proof of what a knife can handle, and also a company that will stand behind that product.

My opinion, after seeing and doing some of the testing, is that no other manufacturer even comes close to our performance(except Busse which does surpass us)

I hope that helps

:D:D
 
thanks for the info guys, I really appreciate it. I went over to swampshack and to the rat forums and seen similar questions and answers. I hope no one misunderstood, I was just curious, this ratweiler is the best Big knife I own. As a matter of fact. I've got the busse/srkw fever pretty bad because they really are awesome...And I have not seen anybody test their knives like you guys.....I like having the best gear available, and now I have the best blades out there.....thanks again...jim
 
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