Custom Balisong?

ChungSan

ChungSan

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Has anyone ever heard of anything like this?

(seller's exact words)
"this particular piece has custom made titanium latchless handles that are blue anodized, also has a custom weehawk blade, hand ground and signed by jody sampson, this knife is like new, and represents the finest that the benchmade custom shop had to offer, this piece is offered to the advanced collector and would be the pivotal piece in ones collection, it is being offered for $2995.00 including insured delivery anywhere in the usa, i will consider all serious cash offers, also , partial trades"

I know Benchmade use to offer titanium as an optin on customs for about $1,000, but I think that was before titanium became more abundant.

Does anyone know the dates that Jody Samson worked for Pacific Cutlery and Benchmade?

It just sounds like a BM42 to me. Any information or opinions will be greatly appreciated.

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[This message has been edited by ChungSan (edited 06-23-2001).]
 
I saw that post too. For the money he's asking, he should have posted pics or made reference to pics being available via email.
It sounds interesting either way.
 
Yeah, it sounds like a modified 42. But they say that it is hand ground and signed by Mr. Samson. I have not heard of BM/PC anodizing the handles on customs, I'm not saying they never did it but it sounds too much like a 42. You should ask for pictures, especially if they are selling it for $3000.

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Ti handles were an available option for customs. Those handles were hand machined out of bar stock. Machining Ti was, at the time, a very exacting and time-consuming operation. Today's CNCs would make short work of it, of course. As I recall, the Ti handles were only about a $500 option. Jody ground all Weehawks for customs so that's not so unique. He rarely signed or marked anything, though, so that's special.

The Ti handles on the 42 are cast (with some finishing done by CNC). The final result is, of course, much the same.

What's missing here is the length.

Would it be "the pivotal piece" in a collection? Well, all of my balisong are pivotal... most, in fact, have three pivots.

It's certainly an outstanding piece. Mr. ChungSan, for example, recently bought a piece in the same league, a "pivotal" piece, but he paid a bit less than three grand.

It's just me and my tastes, but I'd prefer to have something with inserts.

Assuming that it's 4", three-grand is a lot. A 5" with a damascus spearpoint by Samson and snakewood inserts recently sold for $1995 in a private transaction. With no more details about this Ti one, I'd prefer the damascus myself. But, that is just my taste and where I'm currently taking my collection.


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Chuck
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I spoke with the Gentleman the other night on the phone for some time and I could not afford it and handed the sale over to another Forumite who could not swing it at the moment either.

The knife is not a Modified 42.

It is quite easy to protect yourself in this sale.

You print out the For Sale Thread.
You print out any E-mails.
You pay by USPS Money Orders. They have a $500.00 limit, you will have several. You send the payment Registered Mail, etc. Complete Trail and you have it shipped via USPS.

If it is not what he says it is, you will own him.

I believe him. I spoke with him. The man was a large Collector of Emerson Knives as well, including Emerson (extremely rare) Pre-Tacticals, and a couple people in the Emerson Forum know him and have dealt with him before. I do not believe he is a con man in any way whatsoever.

The knife in question was apparently made between 1989 and 1991. That is a guess. If it is a fraud, it is elaborate and an instant bust. But I'm pretty sure it is not a fraud.

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[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 06-23-2001).]
 
Oh, I don't doubt that the knife is real and exactly as described. I also have no doubt that it is a rare and valuable piece. But, I still think maybe he's just a tad bit high on the price.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gollnick:
As I recall, the Ti handles were only about a $500 option.</font>
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In one catalog, I cannot remember what year, Titanium Skeletonized handles were in fact a $1,000.00 option. They might have went down for some reason after that. And I saw that in a catalog online that someone linked to.

 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gollnick:
But, I still think maybe he's just a tad bit high on the price.</font>
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Maybe a tad, not by much. I have seen one Custom that had Ti-Handles and they were not anodized. I think the chances of finding another Anodized, Latchless Ti handled and Signed Custom of any blade type, and finding one so easy that it drops in your lap, is about like hitting the Lottery and being struck by lightning cashing the ticket in.
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It's there...the market shall decide.

 
$3,000 is a bit steep for me. Now I'm not saying what the price should be, I'm just saying its out of my league right now. My guess is that the knife would have been alot more special about a year ago before anyone had seen any annodized balisongs. I hope someone else buys it soon and posts lots of pics though.
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I would really like to see pics of that Samson damascus spearpoint with snakewood inserts. That does sound pretty exotic.

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Hmmm, I wonder what Custom Ti handles on a Bali-Song would feel like
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that must feel real sweet!!

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Cameron

"And shepards we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, so we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be, En Nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti"
A few of my first balisongs
My ClubPhoto albums of balisongs and misc knives and wallpapers
 
a damascus spearpoint with snakewood inserts?!?! POOH! well for that price though i am not too usurped
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Ihtink I have been out of the market too long.. need to do more hunting to get my spirits up
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I knwo someone who has a few pieces signed by JOdy.. btu have yet to confirm.. he seems liek a straight up guy.. but I have yet to see one so yes it is indeed a rare find..

still back in the day ats34 as a blade option was VERY expensive.. so was Ti.. is it worth it? if you are a collector.. thank god I hate anodizing or else I woudl be all over this one
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.. icory and snakewood in my opinion though is pretty timeless..

it is pretty hard to justify the price of milled Ti cause of the high price back in the day.. most of the worth in this knife is really from a historical perspective.


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I agree. After all, collecting is about history, isn't it? Those sentimental value, etc.

Even the Model 129 that never kicked off, now because it is part of balisong flowering in the 80's era, the value is more than average to a collector.

A user would of course go over a BM42 than an international series, etc...

Sorry, I tend to ramble. My spirit is stillhigh in this early (not so
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well there's the history tax.. at first I thoguht this bali was ludicrously expensive until I did the math - I HAVE been out of touch.. woudl you pay the extra 50.00 per inch for ats34 back in the day (and ats wasnt as refined then too)? 500.00 for Ti habdles when it seems so readily workable now.. it is up to you..

now emerson customs - as much as they fascinate me those things make my conscience feel better considering how much I spent on balis.
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