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Siggyhk

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Just wonderin what people think of this line in general. Know they're expensive; worth it or robbery? The spectre kinda caught my eye. -4 inch blade on a 4 3/4 inch handle and petty slim.
 
Cough. robbery. cough.... And in more ways than one. cough... stolen designs... cough, cough.
 
I think the Spectre is a very good looking knife. I think that Cold Steel charge too much for their San Mai knives though.
 
In relation to some of their stolen designs: I think the quillion on the ti-lite isn't really a rip-off of the Emerson wave, it is placed like a flipper and not on the blade, It does the same function, but doing the same function differently isn't stealing. About the Ultralock :rolleyes: It is pretty much stolen, but (at least from their diagram) it functions differently (the pin is inside a groove in the blade from what I can tell, but is still a rip-off. If you are talking about shape and style stealing I don’t know much about that kinda stuff.

There was a passaround of the black sable, they seemed to like it but if the san mai 3 is what people say it is the knives are overpriced
 
I think the pass around was on the Black Sable. The Spectre has not even been for sale yet. Lynn keeps turning them down because they are not up to his specs when they send in the prototypes. At least thats what the Cust. Srvc. desk at CS said last time I spoke with one of them. Not that it does me any good now because I've stopped buying from them.

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the stolen design was the black sable, it was a direct and exact copy of a custom knife made by Brian Tighe. We had a nice long thread where the two were posted side by side and it was as if cold steel cloned the Tighe knife and when contacted Brian Tighe stated flat out that cold steel didnt have permission to use the design. And the worst part of it was that cold steel was charging as much for thier clone as the custom cost from Mr. Tighe.
 
Well didn't they pretty much rip spyderco off of the civilian too for one of em.

Just now noticed how similar the "ultra lock" is to the axis. Nevr caught my eye before.
 
Siggyhk said:
Well didn't they pretty much rip spyderco off of the civilian too for one of em.
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No, Sal Glesser has already commented that he and L.T. have something worked out about the design of the CS "Black Talon".
Walking Man said:
Cough. robbery. cough.... And in more ways than one. cough... stolen designs... cough, cough.
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Not in the case of the CS "Spectre". That is a Barry Dawson/CS collaboration effort.

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Yes, Spyderco and Cold Steel have a long working relationship. Cold Steel originally bought the design rights from Bob Lum for the Americanized Tanto design. And that also goes for his Chinese Folder that Spyderco came out with several years ago. I saw a post on the Spyderco.com forum where Sal explained this.

A few years ago when the Axis lock and the Ultra-Lock were new. The President of Benchmade posted on the Benchmade.com forum saying that they were working on an agreement with Cold Steel for licensing the Ultra-Lock, since it was so close to the Axis lock.
 
I participated in the Black Sable passaround, and while it was a handsome, burly knife, no WAY was it worth what CS is asking.
 
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