Custom knives as an investment + Brian Tighe

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I was just wondering if custom "one of a kind", or "limited edition" knives significantly increase in value over time.

What should one look for -- eg researching the knife-maker -- when making such an investment?

Is anyone aware of the works of -- a fellow Canuck -- named Brian Tighe? I stumbled across his website and he has some exquisite looking blades. Amongst them is a piece which looks like something ROBOCOP would use: http://www.tigheknives.com/Tpg4Tac.html
 
go and get it, you won't be disapointed. speak off flawless workmanship, fit and finsih.

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Ray
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Have one of his autos,the Orion.Fit and finish is flawless.One of my favorite autos
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Brian Tighe is very popular right now and has had articles about him in the major knife magazines in the past couple of months. Last article was this past month in Knives Illustrated, with a bunch of really nice pictures (unfortunately mislabled).
As far as the value of custom knives in general, the answer is -- it depends. Some of the biggest names like Moran, Scagel, and Loveless have skyrocketed. A bunch of others have increased somewhat. For most, you'd probably have trouble getting back the money you paid. To make any money on your knives you have to read a lot, talk to a lot of knowledgeable people, and be really lucky. You should buy knives because you love them. I use the idea of investment as a rationale for spending a lot of money on really fine pieces that I wouldn't splurge on otherwise, and hope that someday, if I ever need the money, it will have proved to be a wise move
 
I like Tighe’s work and own several pieces, but I don’t personally consider them investment grade knives. I think embellished tacticals are a crossover trend that won't prove itself in the long run. For that kind of cash, you can find handmade folders with the same damascus and fancy handle materials, but with construction methods that go far beyond cookie cutter tactical patterns. A Tighe Tac is a well made $450 knife with above average fit and finish for a tactical, but after you more then double the price for the fancy materials, you still have a $450 pattern, and not just a few, but hundreds of them, all pretty much identical. If I were concerned solely with investment value, I‘d rather have something comparatively unique for that kind of money .

I want to emphasize that I’m referring to the embellished tactical trend in general, not specifically Brian’s work. I own both gray and fancy Pinnacles, and I’ll never part with them. I bought them because I like the modern, flowing design and excellent fit and finish, not because I think they have investment value. It would be great if it turns out that I’m wrong, but I’m happy with them either way. Brian’s work is finally
starting to receive the attention it deserves, and I wish him great success.



[This message has been edited by Rick (edited 08-08-2000).]
 
Custom knives like othe collectabiles depend on several things to become good "investments".

1) You have to identify the item very early as having the potential to become a sought after item. Then you must be willing to spend the money on a "unknown" commodity.
In this case it would be a new maker. This means you cannot adopt a wait and see attitude. Doing so will allow this maker to be identified by several other collectors.

The impact,is then increased demand and raised prices. Consequently, you have missed the opportunity to get a good Return On Investment (ROI).

2)You have to be willing to hold the knife for several years to take maximum advantage of your purhcase. Those who bought Loveless and Moran 30 years ago for a small fraction of what they sell for today are reaping what appear to be huge profits. To find out what you really made, you need to factor in inflation over those 30 years (tells you what
the money you spent then is worth today), also if you sell one of these treasures for a significant amount of money (over $10,000), it will have an impact on taxable income. Capital Gains will have to be reported. It's best to go that route than to risk an audit.
Obviously, cash would be a prefered method of payment. However, Don't put $10,000 cash in your savings account as the bank (by law) will report you to the IRS.

3) The other strategy is to buy the knife before popularity sets in, then sell it quickly after it does. That way you are first in and first out. Your ROI may not be as high as those who hold it for 30 years. However, you maximize the "cost of money",. This includes the theory that while you are holding the knife (and subsequent money) for a long period, you are missing out on other opportunites to invest that money. For those of you who enjoy getting new knives all the time, you may want to adopt the "flipper" idea of collecting. That is to say, you buy a knife, hold it for a little while, flip it and make some money, take that money and buy the next knife, repeat the process. Perhaps the best thing about this strategy is the fact that eventually, there will come a time when the knife you buy is bought with all the profits from pervious sales.

You have entered a perfect OPM position, (other peoples money). You are now buying knives with OPM, talk about comparably huge profits. Also, if you chose to liquidate or are forced to liquidate you are not losing any of your inital capital investment. That is a very nice position to be in.

Another benefit of this strategy is that you can always have knives that are current, and thus provide you with a larger consumer base for your knife when you go to resell it.

I first saw one of Brian's knives about 5 years ago at the Wolverine Show in Michigan.

I was amazed at the price for such a quality knife.

I started seeking out Brian immediately after that. Another Dealer, Paul Farina told me how to get in touch with him. Ive been buying his knives ever since.

In addition to making some of the best folders out there. Brian is a class act. Soft spoken, always understating his accomplishments and in general possessing more artistic talent than one human being should have.

I really enjoy working with makers like Brian as with many others the relationship goes beyond business into friendship.

Brian was chosen to make a Doubla Action Auto for the Vanguard series. What, you thought including Brian was an accident!

Remember, when buying tactical folders, get two, they're small.



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Les Robertson
www.robertsoncustomcutlery.com

"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor"
Albert Einstein
 
Les is right on the money, as usual. Brian is a great guy and a very talented maker. He's been no secret up here for a while. The neck knife on the bottom of page 30 of KI took me by surprise. That design, exposed tang, was first made at my request a few years ago and I don't know if that one is mine or another like it. No, it's not damascus. It is an elegant little knife. Even so, I doubt that it is much of a collector's item. On the other hand, Brian's fancy folders are amazing and are collector's quality. You'd have to ask Les or another expert what the value of the Tighe Tacs, customized or otherwise, is. I've been waiting for a customized variation on one of the damascus gents for a while and I suspect, with all the interest and publicity, I'll have a while yet to wait. Quite a difference from even two years ago. I suspect that if you want a real collector's piece from Brian, and if you can't be there first thing at one of the shows like the CKG or Wolf's Bayfield show, and you don't want to surf the usual suspects on the web and take your chances, you could visit Les's site and ask him which piece is coming in and which he thinks suits your criteria.
 
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