Custom or production?

yitz

yitz

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If Sante Fe Stoneworks puts a new handle on a factory knife, would you consider that custom or production?
 
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Definition of Custom.

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To me the difference between handmade and custom is simple. Custom can be any type of knife that you change to whatever degree you desire. That can even be a handmade knife by someone else that you change, simply you cusotized it to fit your needs or desires. People buy blades and put handles on them and do filework to make them look good, they are custom.
Handmade is simply that handmade, no changes by anyone but the maker.
That is what I think and it sound good to me. I use to see people at the gun shows with knives you knew thy bought from some supplier, they called them custom just as they were.
What do you think?
Percy
 
yitz said:
If Sante Fe Stoneworks puts a new handle on a factory knife, would you consider that custom or production?
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It is still a production knife. Albeit a customized one, but it is STILL a production knife.
 
As per Keith, a customized production knife sounds reasonable to me.

The definition of a custom knife? Custom vs. handmade?
Are questions we will never get consensus on.
 
If the blade is manufactured in a factory, it's a production knife. I would an call an example such as you present "customized" or "modified" production.
 
James_Terrio said:
If the blade is manufactured in a factory, it's a production knife. I would an call an example such as you present "customized" or "modified" production.
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what if the blade is handmade and the handle made in a factory?

or what if the handle is handmade and the blade made in a factory?
 
Yes, its a customized production knife. Most of the handle and the whole blade is still production made.
 
People buy blades and put handles on them and do filework to make them look good, they are custom.
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Sounds more like a " KIT KNIFE " than a custom. perhaps a customized kit knife.

If a maker doesn't grind the blade or forge it out or machine it out himself , and instead buys the blade already ground , it is not a custom to me. They made the handle , not the knife. :)
 
John T Wylie Jr said:
If a maker doesn't grind the blade or forge it out or machine it out himself , and instead buys the blade already ground , it is not a custom to me. They made the handle , not the knife. :)
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The inverse of this is why I dont consider most hand ground Strider folders custom knives.
 
severedthumbs said:
what if the blade is handmade and the handle made in a factory?
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When has that ever happened? :confused:

severedthumbs said:
The inverse of this is why I dont consider most hand ground Strider folders custom knives.
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Ohhh, now I understand... the blade is hand-ground to match spec's, and the handles are fitted with mass-produced scales etc, correct? I'd be willing to bet the blade blanks are laser or waterjet cut, then the bevels are ground and the knife is assembled. I consider that semi-production. I agree that they are not custom knives. A grey area would be if the manu/maker offers several different options of handle materials etc.

severedthumbs said:
or what if the handle is handmade and the blade made in a factory?
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The blade is the heart of the knife. I have handled/re-handled and sold several factory-made blades, both new and old. I describe them as "modified" and would NEVER claim them to be fully custom or handmade.

John T Wylie Jr said:
Sounds more like a " KIT KNIFE " than a custom. perhaps a customized kit knife.

If a maker doesn't grind the blade or forge it out or machine it out himself , and instead buys the blade already ground , it is not a custom to me. They made the handle , not the knife. :)
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I agree completely. This includes a batch of unfinished Camillus blanks I purchased after the factory shut down a couple years ago. Although most are not fully-ground or HT'ed, they were still stamped out in their factory and bear their mark. When I finish them up, the mark will remain intact and I will call them what they are... Camillus blanks finished and customized by me.

I don't see why this is hard to understand. ;)
 
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if the guy/gal who owns it calls it a custom knife, then for all intents and purposes it is. Well, at least until said person meets a knife geek like one of us who will almost certainly tell them otherwise. Whether they believe it or not will define the character of that knife for as long as they own it.;)
 
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