d2 or 1095 steel on a rat 7 ?

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pascal.abi

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what are you thinking about the d2 steel on this knife ? could it be use as a camp knife as with the 1095 steel ?
 
I'd go with the D2 as long as you have diamond stones or a belt sander.
 
Jake Bauer said:
1095 on a RAT Cutlery RC-6
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Quoted for truth. ;)

The design refinements, better sheath, and the unconditional lifetime guarantee make it a bit of a no-brainer. Go with the RAT Cutlery RC-6, not the Ontario RAT 7. :)
 
Skip the Ontario Rats and go with RAT Cutlery and get an RC-6. I promise you, you will not be sorry.
 
I'm not an expert, but it is my understanding that D2 is very hard, and slightly brittle. These seem like major drawbacks in a large field knife. Also, yes, get a real RAT from R.A.T. Cutlery :P
 
I would seriously suggest to you the 1095 on the RAT RC-6, I had the same question a while ago, but everyone told me it was foolish to go for the 1095 RAT-7, the RC-6 is the same design but with better heat treament, fit and finish is wonderful and warranty is the best in the world. The D2 is too brittle for such a long blade. plus 1095 is wonderfully easy to maintain on the field.

Go with the RC-6, about the same price as a RAT-7 given or take a penny, but it is worth much more, love it so much, I have an Izula in 1095 and a RC-4 on the way also 1095. At least try them, Once you go RAT you never go back :)

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Everyone, I apologize for this post, but I can't seem to find a thread about 1095.

I've heard that 1095 will rust if not cared for properly with lubrication/protectant. Has anyone spent long periods of time out in wet/rainy environment with 1095 knives WITHOUT proper lubrication for your 1095 knife? Did it rust so bad that it caused permanent damage to the knife? I'm talking over 2, 3 or more weeks in wet/rainy jungles.

Just wondering how long 1095 can go in wet weather without proper lubrication before it rusts and sustains permanent damage.

Anyone? Thanks!
 
saiblade said:
Everyone, I apologize for this post, but I can't seem to find a thread about 1095.

I've heard that 1095 will rust if not cared for properly with lubrication/protectant. Has anyone spent long periods of time out in wet/rainy environment with 1095 knives WITHOUT proper lubrication for your 1095 knife? Did it rust so bad that it caused permanent damage to the knife? I'm talking over 2, 3 or more weeks in wet/rainy jungles.

Just wondering how long 1095 can go in wet weather without proper lubrication before it rusts and sustains permanent damage.

Anyone? Thanks!
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Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you just oil it up before taking it into that kind of enviornment? Giving it a light wipe with an oily rag every once in awhile isn't really all that difficult, you know. I've taken 1095 knives into some of the most extreme environments on earth over the last 50 years and, with a little maintenance, never had a problem. Oil is you friend: it's cheap and it's easy, so why not use it?
 
So, if you lub it before taking it into rainy jungle, it will not rust for 2, 3, 4 weeks or longer?

Thanks.
 
saiblade said:
So, if you lub it before taking it into rainy jungle, it will not rust for 2, 3, 4 weeks or longer?

Thanks.
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No, that's not what I'm saying. In my youth, I spent a lot of time in jungles, so I know how unprotected steel can rust. The solution is to oil it periodically to keep that from happening. Yes, oil it well before going into a nasty environment, but wipe it every day, too. It's not hard to run a rag over your knife, so why wouldn't you? Using your knife -- as I assume you would -- will remove some of the oil, so you need to replace it with a quick wipe. Oiling it well before going in is only prudent. If you're not using it, then, yes, one oiling will last awhile. If, however, you are using it, then oil it again.

ETA: Knives like Beckers and RAT's do have a protective coating on the blades that really helps retard rust, but you still need to give them a wipe with an oily rag.

Did I mention that you really should wipe your knife with an oily rag from time to time?
 
I don't know much about knife steel. All knives I've had in the past had been stainless steel. Out in the woods, I would just use it, put it back in its sheath, and let it dry naturally. I don't know much about 1095 so I wanted to see how you all take care of your high carbon knives.

I bought my first 1095 knife a couple of weeks ago, a RAT RC-4. It's a real nice knife; looks real tough and durable! Hope I'll remember to keep it dry and lubricated!

Thanks for the input, DawsonBob!
 
You're welcome, saiblade. The RC-4 is a good knife; just keep it sharp and give it a light pass with an oily rag from time to time, and it should serve you well for a lifetime.
 
I'd just take one of those silicon wipes with me or a tiny tube of oil. Anytime I go away from home I take a little tube of oil or grease for my carry gun. Makes sense to do the same for you carbon steel knives. Pretty easy to pack too.

Also, I don't think you have much to worry about with the coating.. I'd take a coated carbon blade over a bead blasted or stone washed stainless blade any day. I also understand that if you patina the edge (using vinegar or cutting fruit, etc.) it will resist rust a little better. Not sure if that's true or not, just what I've read.

Jonathan
 
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