damacus steel?

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1085/15N25 mix - what does that mean ? i was on site about knives and mentioned the steel was this mix / is it crap or pretty good damacus blade???
 
When it comes to Damascus steel or any foreged blade steel is important depending upon the application (almost as important as the skill of the forger).
 
The 1084 is a good blade steel on it's own. The 15N25 has nickel which doesn't etch as dark as the 1084 so you get excellent contrast, and a good knife !
 
You can get an incredibly good pattern welded blade from the combination of 1084/1095 and 15N20. Knives have been made from this steel that have won cutting competitions.
 
Cool. I've just bought my first Damascus lockback folder. I wanted a knife that looked great but also took a good edge. ;)) Looks like that is what I've got. Thanks.
 
1084-1080 are fairly high manganese steel. 15N-20 has a fair amount of manganese. They have fairly similar heat treaments. These steels exhibit good contrast. One steel is eutectic and one is eutectoid, one being above and one being below the amount of Carbon that optimizes the steel equation of Fe3C. They are very compatable in forging and will make a very good performing Damascus. This mix was arrived at from midnight madness, a gathering of bladesmiths at late night after the Oregon knife show. Many of the folks involved in the development of the mix are now Mastersmiths. The goal was to get a good high contrast compatible mix of steel for Damascus so Jeff Carlisle of Swain's Spring Service in Great Falls MT could stock material to supply many of the steel makers in the NW. Devin Thomas, Rick Dunkerley, Shane Taylor, Wade Colter, Barry Gallagher, Ed Caffery, and JD Smith were all participants in these discussions to target this mix. Many types of steel were tried and experimented with to find this mix of steel...Take Care...Ed
 
Ed Schempp said:
1084-1080 are fairly high manganese steel. 15N-20 has a fair amount of manganese. They have fairly similar heat treaments. These steels exhibit good contrast. One steel is eutectic and one is eutectoid, one being above and one being below the amount of Carbon that optimizes the steel equation of Fe3C. They are very compatable in forging and will make a very good performing Damascus. This mix was arrived at from midnight madness, a gathering of bladesmiths at late night after the Oregon knife show. Many of the folks involved in the development of the mix are now Mastersmiths. The goal was to get a good high contrast compatible mix of steel for Damascus so Jeff Carlisle of Swain's Spring Service in Great Falls MT could stock material to supply many of the steel makers in the NW. Devin Thomas, Rick Dunkerley, Shane Taylor, Wade Colter, Barry Gallagher, Ed Caffery, and JD Smith were all participants in these discussions to target this mix. Many types of steel were tried and experimented with to find this mix of steel...Take Care...Ed
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My dad likes to take all the credit for 1084/15N20. :p
 
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