Damascus and sperm whale

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HI IM FACUNDO FROM ARGENTINA THIS IS MY FIRST POST
IT IS A LATEST KNIFE I HOPE YOU LIKE IT

HANDLE: Tooth FROM SPERM WHALE
BLADE : 13 CM
THICKNESS 5.5MM
DAMASCUS 0F 1095 AND 15N20 PURE NIQUEL AND K720
PATTERN FEATHER FOSFATICED
GUARD :5160
FALSE CHASSIS 5160

REGARDS
MONTENEGRO

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Isn't the sperm whale an endangered species? If so, how do you go about finding the handle material?? If you just made the knife, isn't this like making a knife with rhinoceros horn?

Let's hear what you have to say, please.
 
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That's a purdy knife you made there. The tooth must have been a pain in the ass to find.

Isn't the sperm whale an endangered species? If so, how do you go about finding the handle material?? If you just made the knife, isn't this like making a knife with rhinoceros horn?

Let's hear what you have to say, please.
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He could have used an old tooth. I know nothing about his country's laws, But not every country has laws about protecting about Endangered species as far as i know.
 
Greshapa said:
That's a purdy knife you made there. The tooth must have been a pain in the ass to find.



He could have used an old tooth. I know nothing about his country's laws, But not every country has laws about protecting about Endangered species as far as i know.
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You're right, you probably know nothing about the laws. Maybe you should. Making a new knife from an endangered species is inappropriate, at a minimum.
 
You're right, you probably know nothing about the laws. Maybe you should. Making a new knife from an endangered species is inappropriate, at a minimum.
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Do you know about the laws in his country? Just because you live at the top of the world in California and you can look down you nose on everyone else doesn't mean you're always right. Don't assume he tracked down a whale and killed it for its tooth. Whale hunting was practiced for hundreds of years and there are probably hundreds of whale teeth kicking around the world.

Why not put one to good use, and make a piece of art?
 
Nice knife and Welcome to the forums. Though it is not legal in the US to use sperm whale teeth it is perfectly acceptable in many areas of the world. There are many teeth that are found on the beach as this one looks like. You can tell by the stone washed look. I see sperm whale teeth at shows all the time though I will not purchase them due to all the problems associated with it. It makes a beautiful handle. Nice work.
 
I believe you are getting personal here. I am not looking down my nose at anyone, at least I wasn't until NOW.

I have an opinion and it is my decision to express it freely and openly - I'm interested in who else thinks that a rhino horn, or sperm whale material, etc (ie, endangered species material) is appropriate material for use on a newly made knife. Personally, I think it sends the wrong message about knife collecting, knife making, etc.

I don't really care for the opinion of someone who lacks knowledge (ie, knowledge = the opposite of ignorant), but for someone who is a bit enlightened. Thanks
 
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Remind me never to buy a knife or condone buying a knife from a maker who condons the use of endangered species materials in the making of new knives.

Best,

Bob Betzner

ps: I'm wondering what position the ABS takes on the use of endangered species materials in the making of new knives?
 
Looks like further contributions to this thread will be in order, first thing in the morning. I'm still interested in whether the ABS condones the use of endangered species materials in the making of new knives.
 
Looks like further contributions to this thread will be in order, first thing in the morning. I'm still interested in whether the ABS condones the use of endangered species materials in the making of new knives.
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I sincerely doubt the American Bladesmith society Condones it. Unless you mean the Argentinian Bladesmith Society? I doubt either one 'condones' it. But i also doubt that either one condones throwing away or letting relics collect dust in a basement just because they were once procured from a now endangered animal.
 
You are making a presumption in your statement that the material was procured prior to the listing of the animal as an endangered species. Kinda ruins any argument if you don't know.

Any use of endangered species materials on a new knife by a knifemaker sends the wrong signal to those who see us use knives, collect knives, make knives, etc. And discussing the merits or looks of the knife, while ignoring the issue here, is backward.
 
Is that how you feel about use of pre-ban ivory and giraffe bone?
Is it comfortable for you on that high horse?
 
Very nice knife. Fit and finish look very good. Interesting materials.

Thanks for sharing,
SDS
 
Completely different issues. And giraffe bone??????? And what's that about tall horses? I think you have really gotten way off track. Doesn't even justify an answer, especially when you compliment someone for using sperm whale teeth on a new knife.

Yawn, type all you desire, bedtime here.

Kindest regards,
 
I was going to give a long response to Betzner's comment but this would further hijack this thread. I recommend further discussion on this subject be in a different thread. I invite Betzner to begin this topic and further response be focused there.
 
You have done a great job on that knife MONTENEGRO

I would be proud to show a knife like that.

Richard
 
Beautiful knife.

We do have to be careful, however. Just look what happened to the Mammoth when its tusks started being used in knife scales...
 
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