Damascus Patterns..... Share to tell your secrets?

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Hey Everyone..

Thought I would ask. Since I am just starting out with making my own blades shortly (been buying premade blanks), I was hoping you guys on here would like to show us newbies some easy and neat ways to make damascus billets?

I have read some previous posts and I am getting the understanding of how it is done.. Problem is, I don't know anyone around me that I could ask to go and see it done in person :(

I hope you guys might want to help out...

Thanks

Dezi
 
Hey Count.. I too like Ed's video on basic. One question I do have..

When Drawing out the billet... My forge is around 18" Long. How do you heat the billet if it is longer? I know I know. Don't make it longer. Guess I would need to figure out how many layers I can do in the forge when drawing right????
 
Hey Everyone..

I was hoping you guys on here would like to show us newbies some easy and neat ways to make damascus billets?


Dezi


The words easy and damascus don't usually go together.

Long billets are run through the forge rear port and moved in and out. Often, you are only working about 6" per heat, so that is all the billet you need to heat.

Start with the basic random pattern and shoot for 200-500 layers. Once you get the welding down pat, move to a ladder pattern. From there it gets more and more complex.

I'll give you a trick that can be done by anyone who can make a basic random pattern, and will make your damascus blade a one of a kind.

1) Make up a 512 or 1024 layer random billet ( eight bars X six folds or seven folds) and draw it out to around 5/16" to 3/8" thick.
2) Pre-shape this as your blade, only way too thick. Forge the basic bevels in, but don't go too far. Clean up the scale to a rough ground surface. It should look like a very thick knife blade.
3) Get a 1/4" or 3/8" letter stamp set, and deeply strike your initials or name all over the billet on both sides. You can make you name - DEZI, initials - D.?., turn the letters all directions, etc. Try it out on a piece of mild steel first to decide what you want it to look like. Try and get each letter stamped in one crisp and clean punch. A slow speed HF hydraulic press will help with this, but a 3# machinist hammer will work just as well.
4) Grind the billet until the stamp marks are almost flush, and then proceed to make the blade. This should remove the excess thickness. Once the bevels are ground and sanded, the stamp marks should be flush and nearly invisible, except when you etch the blade. If needed, you can deepen any mark that is grinding out too fast by carefully re-striking it.
5) Etch the blade as normal, and you should see the stampings as neat pattern dislocations.

You can do this and put a personal message on a blade, like - HAPPY BIRTHDAY, or a name - JOHN SMITH or a date - 9-11-2001, etc.

Play with this on a bar of cheap damascus to try it out.
If you think about it, it is nothing but the same principle as birdseye damascus.
 
Dezi, Not enough room to list all the patterns and as Stacy pointed out, easy and Damascus don't necessarily go together. Though things get easier as you become more proficient it is still not easy. There are a huge number of WIP's on the forums showing how we all do it. You have a great resource with the Ed Caffrey Vid's. It's about getting out and playing to see what you can come up with. Maybe you will give us the next new pattern. Have Fun
 
Count, Shawn Knowels is the one who did the Ferry Flip WIP you posted not Tom Ferry.

Yes that's Shawn's post, but the Ferry in Ferry flip is Tom Ferry right?
I only listed search terms, not bylines.
There are other unrelated results for just the words "Ferry Flip" that come up in google searches -skateboards, upside down boats and such.


On the Dave Lisch star pattern.
He puts the twist bar on the edge because the nickel powder stars wont hold an edge.
I like the look of the stars without the twist.
I suppose it could be done with solid 15n20, but are there any other shiny high nickel powders that could be used for that?
 
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I tell all on my site. I have a lot more to tell, but limited time to write things up. If you have specific patterns you're interested in, drop me a PM or email and I'll try to make those the next ones I write up. I may even do some simple drawings until I have time to back the words with photos.

-d
 
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