Damascus vs Pattern Welded steel

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Can someone explain the difference please? Or is there a difference...? Im sure this won't start a war. :rolleyes:
I had a customer wanting a damascus knife so he sent me some cheap stuff off amazon, It heat treated fine and was okay to work with. But I have another piece and dont want to lie to my customers when I make another knife calling it damascus when it may be "pattern welded" and just a rip off.
I watched a video by walter sorrells saying damascus can be used to describe any pattern welded steel. So am I just over thinking this?
 
Doesn't matter . . . damascus or pattern welded steel . . . as long as it is clad to the sides of some nice particle metallurgy high alloy or some Hitachi White Paper Steel ! ! ! !

Make it all good and thin.
Now that's a knife ! Looks great cuts even better.

PS: or Hitachi HAP40. You know I have to admit I was wrong about HAP40.
I took one look at Ankerson's rope cutting tests and dismissed it as a ho hum big yawn flash in the pan . . . that's what it looks like on that list of test steels.

In use though it's right up there with my M4. I haven't given it as vigorous and thorough test as I would like due to work being way slow right now. What rigors I have put it through cutting the normal challenging stuff that has proven M4 to be the very best alloy for me the HAP40 has been doing without a touch up so far.
Mine is clad and pretty thin. :thumbsup:
 
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"Pattern welded" steel is commonly referred to as "Damascus" steel.
However, it is not the famed "Damascus steel" that found fame in battles against the crusaders in the 12th century.
 
Hello, I am very late to this thread, however, the answers here are far from adequate. Damascus steel for all intents and purposes is wootz steel which involves no pattern welding but is in fact crucible steel, the pattern is caused by "beads" of cementite in the microstructure of the steel. Pattern welded involves forge welding several different metals together to produce a pattern. However, currently Damascus steel just by the use of the term alone is used as a synonym for pattern welded, it is however very difficult to produce true Damascus steel so if anyone asks you for Damascus they mean pattern welded and not true Damascus
 
Same thing, different names. I've even heard someone refer to it as "Wootz steel" before too. Not sure if Wootz is any different or not, but I'm assuming it's just another name.
 
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