Dark Ops=M Tech

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About 2 years ago I bought an M-Tech tactical fixed blade knife from Smokey Mountain Knifeworks. It cost about $20.00 bucks. Today, I was bored and was reading some of the Dark Ops bashing threads for a good laugh. To my surprise the Dork Ops 911 knife that cost over $100 dollars has the exact same handle as my M-Tech POS. Every detail of the handle is the same. These two knives have to be produced in the same factory. BTW, sometimes I buy crappy M-tech knives to destroy. It is a sick hobby. If you are bored enough compare the handle and pommel on theM-Tech on eknfworks.com to the 911 model on the Dork Ops website.
 
I don't ever purposely destroy a knife, but I have knives I wouldn't mind seeing destroyed. The handles may look the same, but the material might be different. You'd really have to buy the two knives.

Recently I bought a Smith & Wesson Homeland Security Tanto from Smoky Mountain. It was selling for $29.95 and that's the cheapest you can get it for anywhere. And I bought it because it looked kind of cool, though I wasn't expecting much. Then, to get free postage, I bought the Frost Cutelry COPY of the S&W. Price, thirteen bucks. I just wanted to see how they compared and it was about the same price as the shipping would have been.

I don't know how these companies work and what kind of a compensation they give each other when they copy designs. But the Smith knife was designed by Morgan A. Taylor and, as I stated elsewhere, I was very pleasantly surprised by the Smith's apparent quality. The looks were great, the balance fantastic, and the blade's edges were sharp and attractively ground. The knife's finish also was flawless and I was very happy with the purchase. Never had I seen a S&W that impressed me this much. Even the ballistic nylon sheath was well made. But then the Frost did not disappoint me. It was as completely lacking in quality as expected. The patterns were the same on the blade, but the thickness and grind were completely different. Plus the handles were plastic, but the Smith handles were G10.

When a company like Frost copies a knife like this, does it have to pay Smith & Wesson? And would M-Tech have to pay for its knockoff of the Dark Ops 911? If the answer is yes, why would the originators sell those rights? As they say down South, "That don't hardly make sense!" Even M-Tech frequently uses G10 in the handles of its knives, but again, I'd think if you had the two knives side by side, that you'd probably be able to tell why one would go fer $100 and the other $20.

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The grips do look the same, but are they?
 
Great point, but the Mtech and the Dork Ops 911 handle and pommel appear to be made of the exact same material. I know Cabelas sells an Mtech knife stamped with the Cabelas logo for 34.96. They stamp the Cabelas name on it and call it the XPG sawtooth. I have the same knife that says Mtech on it. Price was ten dollars at my local outdoor store. I attempted to warn people about the knife but the Cabelas review moderators would not post my message. I think this type of thing goes on more many people think. I think that it is wrong for Cabelas to sell a ten dollar knife for thirty five dollars!
 
A lot of merchandisers private label there own stuff, especially Cabela's. It appears their knife buyer does make a few good choices now and again, but they do sell to a relatively unschooled market - the general public - and really good knives would be a waste and not too profitable.

M-Tech/Dark OPs sells to the same public when they step up to buy "real knives."
 
IMO, makes perfect since, if you've already ripped off someone elses design, you should have it manufactured at the cheapest way.

If cold steel suddenly comes out with a similar design, guess we know where they get there knives too.
 
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