Darn you guys! (Or, rant against everyone)

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mr.trooper

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Every time I want to buy a new knife, I research it here on blade forums for a few hours.

The other day I saw a Case Large copperlock in a small town hardware store, and Iv been wanting one. SO, I do some searching using every keyword I can think of; "Case", "G10*", "Orange" Being carefull not to overload the engine. Nothing Usefull AT ALL.

What do I find? a bunch of people bashing Case left and freeking right esentialy telling me that Case is the worst knife manufacturor in the world, and how every model they make has everything wrong with it. :jerkit:

Guess what? I DONT CARE if the scale is 1/32'nd of an inch thicker than the bolsters, or if you found a barely visible bur on the edge with your microscope. All I want is a useable knife withought any noticible play; i liked the idea of the G10 scales because it is unique in a slipjoint.

But you guys had to go and post that garbage. Im working a crapy food service job; long hours for little pay, and Iv got bills rolling in and an empty wallet. Thanks for crushing my hopes and dreams you JEARKS; I wish i could say it was the first time. Get real and relize that not everyone is a knife snob like you.

I think Im guna go buy lots of Case knives just to spite you. I dont even care if its crap anymore. As long as Case stays in buisness you will suffer, and thats enough to get me through my misserable day. :mad:
 
I happen to LIKE Case Knives. In fact, I am a life member of the Case Collectors Club.
 
I currently have four yellow handle Case knives and out of those three of them get rotated around in my every day carry (EDC). It isn't unusual to find me with two in my pockets. Sure, they may have things that aren't perfect, but if that's what you want you have to pay big for premium level stuff. I prefer to use mine.

If you like the knife, it looks good to you on inspection, and feels good to you, go for it! I can't afford to be dropping hundreds for a pocket knife either.

Besides being good, honest cutting tools that are pleasant to handle, to me an additional pleasure in carrying and using a Case is the connection to the past, to an American tradition. Same thing for my few Schrade Old Timers. Just American classic.

I would lean more towards the CV steel if you can get it with the handle choice you like. Works for me anyway.

Stop back in and if you can post a pic of your knife when you get it.
 
mr.trooper said:
Every time I want to buy a new knife, I research it here on blade forums for a few hours.

The other day I saw a Case Large copperlock in a small town hardware store, and Iv been wanting one. SO, I do some searching using every keyword I can think of; "Case", "G10*", "Orange" Being carefull not to overload the engine. Nothing Usefull AT ALL.

What do I find? a bunch of people bashing Case left and freeking right esentialy telling me that Case is the worst knife manufacturor in the world, and how every model they make has everything wrong with it. :jerkit:

Guess what? I DONT CARE if the scale is 1/32'nd of an inch thicker than the bolsters, or if you found a barely visible bur on the edge with your microscope. All I want is a useable knife withought any noticible play; i liked the idea of the G10 scales because it is unique in a slipjoint.

But you guys had to go and post that garbage. Im working a crapy food service job; long hours for little pay, and Iv got bills rolling in and an empty wallet. Thanks for crushing my hopes and dreams you JEARKS; I wish i could say it was the first time. Get real and relize that not everyone is a knife snob like you.

I think Im guna go buy lots of Case knives just to spite you. I dont even care if its crap anymore. As long as Case stays in buisness you will suffer, and thats enough to get me through my misserable day. :mad:
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<> First of all, this belongs in the W&C forum in my opinion, where we can all speak more freely. :cool:

<> Second, if you really did any consistent and valid research here over any real length of time you would find a lot more positive Case threads than negative ones..:foot:

<> Third, I don't believe it is the fault of anyone here that you find yourself in your present, "crapy food service job" predicament. However, judging from your inability to spell and punctuate could be directly correlated to your lack of education. And maybe that is the real reason you are in your current unhappy situation to begin with.. ;)

Peace~
 
Is a Chevy or a Ford the best car? Its the same with knives! You get 20 people together & you are going to get different opinions.:eek:
 
i purchased 4 new case knives in the cv steel and just ordered 2 more and im very pleased with them. the rest of your problems are your own making and i can not help with.truth is if you allow people and what they say on here bother you very much then you are way to easily bothered.
david
 
By far, I own more Case knives than any other made by any maker.

(most of them are old, but I still find myself buying a few every year of patterns I have interest in.)

Last year, in addition to the Bose collab. whittler (which I think is the best one yet as far as quality and production difficulty combined), I decided to pick up one of each of the "baby doc" knives they produced.

I don't even have a major problem with the 420 stainless. The edge may not last very long comapred to CV and Queen's D2, but it is easy to get them shaving sharp and with a few blades in a small package for not much bucks they last long enough for me. That 420 will develop a wire edge that flops back and forth as you sharpen so the trick is too lighten way up on pressure as you get close to the finish of your sharpening.

It would be cool if they had other steel options and would produce all patterns with a cv steel. They do in fact produce some limited edition knives in ATS-34 (other than the Bose collaborations) that are nice knives.

IMO the worst period in Case history for their quality as well as pattern innovation was the late '80s and early 90's. They have made great gains since those woahfull times and I have been very happy to see them succeed at that effort.
 
Man, what is it this morning, there is a similar rant in the general forum about "mall ninjas".

Did some folks buy the new "Paxil Free" pop-tarts by mistake?
 
TLC,TOO FUNNY! Mr.Trooper,you cannot go by what other people say about knives.Use and carry,what you like,and can afford. Case has been around a long time,side by side with other knife co.'s,not bad knives at all,IMO.
 
Its a rant guys. The purpose is to yell at people you dont like and get a point across at the same time. The point was that I like Case knives despite the nay-saying, and will buy them anyway. ;)

Also, I was hoping that anyone with experience with the Orange G10 would speak up.

Also, I posted that at about 4:30 in the morning. :p
 
Hey, compared to the raving loonie I was stuck at work with at 0430 this morning it's mild. I get stuck with this guy two nights a week. I won't go into it, but I'll be glad to get on days and get away from him. He ain't no young feller either.

Yep, like what ya buy, buy what you like, and enjoy what you can.
 
mr.trooper said:
Its a rant guys. The purpose is to yell at people you dont like and get a point across at the same time. The point was that I like Case knives despite the nay-saying, and will buy them anyway. ;)

Also, I was hoping that anyone with experience with the Orange G10 would speak up.

Also, I posted that at about 4:30 in the morning. :p
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Go ahead & buy the crud Case knives... been there, done that. When you want a real knife get one in 1095 carbon steel..! The Case CV steel might be ok but, I wouldn't get anything else from them. JMHO.
 
I have several Case stainless knives, along with some CVs and also stainless and carbon steel knives from several other brands. Until you get into premium steels, I can't find a lick of difference in edgeholding or sharpening. 1095, 0176C (Case "CV"), 440A, 420HC, they are all about the same hardness (55-57 RC) and perform just about the same. I have two of the CV cases, and the edges last no longer than the 420 stainless knives. I've got two D2 knives, they do hold that edge quite a bit longer than the softer stuff, but hey I have time and I have sharpening equipment, so what's the bad deal there?

People are always ranting about how great and wonderful 1095 steel is. Never seen any advantages. Sharpens OK, holds an edge OK, rusts OK too. :rolleyes: Talking about sharpening and burrs, I have a Buck with S30V steel. It was fairly well edged out of the box, but the angle was steeper than I like, so I decided to reprofile it. Talk about HARD. Now that was not easy. And it burred, had a tiny almost invisible burr on the edge that you could feel with your fingernails, tough to remove that. When I got it deburred and did the final honing with a finer grit, it's literally hair popping sharp. Will it hold that edge longer? I don't know, haven't gotten to use it much. Judging by the abrasion resistance, I'd believe that it would.

Some people like to bash and badmouth Case and elevate the other American slipjoint makers. Never seen any evidence to back that up. I have and have had others from all the brands, the Case is as good as or better than any of the others. Got a couple of Schrades with that magical 1095. Uneven blade grinds, weak springs, poor edgeholding, poor finish, gaps around the bolsters and scales, liners protruding above the scales, etc etc. But Case is bad! :jerkit: Funny thing is, fit and finish on all my Cases is actually better than all my others but for the Schatt & Morgan knives. Thats out of Bulldog, Schrade, Buck, Queen, S&M, Camillus, and Boker made knives.

Buy what ya like, as long as you avoid flea market crap from Red China and Pakistan :barf: you'll be fine. :thumbup:
 
mr.trooper said:
...Also, I was hoping that anyone with experience with the Orange G10 would speak up..
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Mr. T,

I bought a Case Seahorse Whittler with CV steel and day-glo Orange G-10 scales around Christmas time last year at the Lowes hardware stores when they were in the process of phasing out the Case XX line in the stores here down south. The only reason I bought it was that I only paid $18.+ tax on clearance which was about half of the original price. My brother saw it on our new years day b-b-q and asked about it(which means he wanted one:rolleyes: ).. So I through it over to him and told him to keep it.. Fast forward to today and although the blades are a bit scatched and tarninshed(he is a first class pocketknife abuser) the G-10 handle looks as good as the day I gave it to him.

I for one think the G-10 is some pretty tuff stuff, but time will tell. I also think you should buy the knives you like. I personally love old Case XX knives with vintage Rogers Bone, Green Bone, old knarly Stag and other natural handle materials.
 
pogo said:
Go ahead & buy the crud Case knives... been there, done that. When you want a real knife get one in 1095 carbon steel..! The Case CV steel might be ok but, I wouldn't get anything else from them. JMHO.
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#1) I have a KaBar that has seen enough field use to ware off most of the black finish. I know what 1095 is all about. Its good, but your a little dilluted if you think its the end-all-be-all of steels.

#2) I also use a Victorinox Soldier A LOT as my EDC. There steel isnt realy any better than the 420HC that Case uses, or 440A. Even so, it does everything I need a pocket knife to do. Whats more Im willing to wager that unless your some kind of military man who is waisting his FEW precious free moments on Bladeforums, that it does everything YOU actualy need to do and that your just being a steel snob IMHO. ;) You dont need S90V to open an envelope, trim a mop head, slit some heavy plastic sheating, and cut the flap off a cardboard box; 420J2 can do that and still come out sharp enough to do it again with ease.

But I DO agree that If Case chose to make CV availible on the G-10 line, I would be willing to pay the higher price.
 
I didn't know that Case produced a Seahorse with CV?!?! Are you sure???
 
waynorth said:
I didn't know that Case produced a Seahorse with CV?!?! Are you sure???
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It was 2004 or 2005 tang stamp, I cannot remember now. It was older mdse for Lowes to clearence it out. Next time my brother visits I'll snap a picture and post it here.
 
I gave a Case knife a harsh review before but I was really going for detail and nitpicking.

In general I think that Case makes pretty good knives especially when you consider what they cost and how they are made. In fact an amber bone medium stockman makes it into my pocket just about every day now.

As for the 1095 thing, I don't think there is anything magical about 1095 at all. It's a good all-around steel but doesn't truly excel in anything. Often the carbon steels are the best choice in slipjoints because low-end stainless is often used here.

Phil in Alabama makes a good point about Schrade. A lot of their knives had inconsistent quality in their final years. Grab an older one though and you'll appreciate it.
 
waynorth said:
I didn't know that Case produced a Seahorse with CV?!?! Are you sure???
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You are right it's marked SS not CV, my bad..:o

It was bugging me bad so I called my bro and had him read the numbers off the back of the knife to me..
 
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