Day in the woods with daughter

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Sorry no pics, couldn't find the camera as I went out the door. My daughter and I have been reading "Little House on the Prairie". (She will be celebrating her 9th B-day at Fogos with us.) She gets a big kick out of playing at this stuff, so I suggested we go out and play "Pioneers". Good excuse for Daddy to enjoy his toys, the FBM and a Howler LM. Weather was ~30F, some fresh snow over crunchy old stuff. We went down into a ravine near us, and I planned on making a fire.

Well, I could not get a fire going at all. :mad: Now, I will admit I have about zero woodcraft skills, never was in Scouts, little camping to speak of; but I have read more than a few threads on the subject, and it is clear to me now that it is a skill that takes practice. I didn't bring any tinder/starter, just a Mg firestarter bar, and a lighter for back-up. I cut down some tree fall while my daughter gathered twigs and branches. The trees down there are all deciduous hardwood, no conifers. Lots of old, punky fallen wood that I knew would not burn, I thought I found something fresher. And some wild grape vines, the bark seemed like it would be good tinder. I split the wood, and made a pile of shavings and some fuzz-sticks. The FBM chopped like a champ, but the Howler could have been sharper, should have brought my ZDP Calypso, that thing is amazing.

I made a little pile of Mg shavings, arranged some tinder around it, and scraped down some sparks. The Mg flared up, but didn't ignite the the tinder. After a few rounds of that, I 'cheated' with the lighter. I could not get anything to sustain a flame! :grumpy: I finally decided that the wood was too old, so I cut down a tree, spit open a round, batoned it into splits, and shaved some fresh wood. Still no fire. After an hour of this, we just hiked around a little, and called it a day. Still a fun day win the woods with my daughter, then we drowned our sorrows with hot chocolate and brownies at the local coffeehouse.
 
soudns like you had a great time...Always great to get kids in the woods, times neither of you will soon forget
 
hey resinguy, that's pretty cool. she'll never remember that you couldn't get a fire going, but she'll always remember going out to the woods with her dad. you can never spend too much time with your kids.

Winston
 
hey resinguy, that's pretty cool. she'll never remember that you couldn't get a fire going, but she'll always remember going out to the woods with her dad. you can never spend too much time with your kids.

Winston

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They grow up fast. Get as much time out with them as you can. My daughter is approaching the age that she won't fit in the front stow hatch of my sea kayak - She was small enough that the hatch worked fine as a extra bow cockpit. I'll have to get her one of her own soon.

She loves camping!!
 
Too bad we all don't live closer for a Daddy and daughter fun filled stampede.

We would be all over that! We have water, canoe, firepit and campsites all within walking distance, and it seems that all I do is work or go to Dr. appointments. :thumbdn:

A Busse/Forum inspired camptrip would be better than Disneyland for my family! Somehow I don't think it would end up any less expensive though.;)

Resinguy,good on you man! As said before, she will remember being with Dad, the fire was secondary. But, up here in the NorthWET, I've found that a little petroleum jelly worked into cotton balls, and carried in a film canister, will help get some fire going when you need.:thumbup:
 
Sounds like a great time!

I'm in for the father/daughter campout :thumbup:
 
Tips and tricks for the Mg block:

1. Attach a little piece of hack saw blade to the little bead-chain lanyard. An old blade would be ideal (free!), but a new blade is fine, too. Just snap off a piece that's about as long as the block. The saw gives you lots of small shavings with little effort. The back of the blade can be used to strike the flint.

2. Cotton balls rubbed with vaseline make great tinder. They catch the tiny little magnesium particles really well, and burn for a little bit to get your small sticks started.

Aside from that, start with the absolute smallest sticks you can find - I like to use two or three handfulls of sticks that are smaller than a pencil lead. Those will burn long enough to catch stuff that's finger-diameter. If the woods are wet, the really small sticks may be soaked, so substitute shavings from a dry piece of wood that you split open - ideal task for the BM.
 
So how do you rate the chopping power of the FBM compared to the BM-E?

Hard to be certain; different day, different tree:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=445070

but I would say the FBM is superior. I can't be certain that the FBM bites deeper until I compare them back-to-back; but I think the handle (and the ability to maintain grip) is better on the FBM. The micarta on that BM-E seems to have a glaze on it, I need to scrub it with a stiff brush and get it back to rough canvas.
 
hey resinguy, that's pretty cool. she'll never remember that you couldn't get a fire going, but she'll always remember going out to the woods with her dad. you can never spend too much time with your kids.

Winston

HAH, that's what YOU think! A few years ago I took her to a State park that has these great rock formations, perfect for scrambling up, and through crevices. We were trying to climb up out of a deep crevice, so I picked a route I thought would take us up to the rim. When we got to the top, it turned out we were on an 'island'. My daughter said, "Daddy, are we lost?" I replied, "No, the road is right over there, we just can't get there from here!" So we climbed down, and found another way out. She ALWAYS refers to that trip as the time we got lost!! ;)

I have no doubt that this day will live in infamy as "remember that time we were playing pioneers and you couldn't start a fire?" :p :D
 
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