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Death of a good friend....

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hi guys,


I know I do not know any of you personally.... butI feel like a part of the community here now.

One of my best friends just died from a brain tumor a few hours ago... and I really don't know how to deal with this.

I was hoping someone in this community of good people might be able to give me some suggestions of what I can do to try and deal with my feelings on this one...


I am trying to concentrate on the positive things that I shared with my buddy, but it is very hard...

I started working on my first knife a few days ago, and I am now going to make it and put it to rest with Rob. He was one of the main influences on me to actually try to make a knife, as he knew I love 'em...

So. Here in Cyberspace.... My first memorial to my good friend, Rob Nancarrow.... God bless ya buddy!!





P>S> Sorry for the downer post, needed an impartial place to vent.

-Dave
 
I am sorry to hear about the loss of your good friend. Know that we are all here to help you. Even if you don't post anything mroe about this, we are all thinking about you, so keep that thought close!

I think that you are doing right by making that knife for your friend. The first death in my family that I remember, really, was my Great Uncle. I'm not sure how old I was either, probably 12ish. Anyways, I have recently become fascinated by axes and the like, and while researching a memory was jogged in my head about a time when my Great Uncle made me split a bunch of wood, and was that ever great! This rush of great thoughts hit me.

We are all going to pass on at some time. What we have is a bunch of experiences. Enjoy the great times you had with your friend, and every time you think about him, you're having a new experience with him, really. Each time I read somethign about axes, I feel as though I am with my Uncle. Make that knife, and you'll see what I mean. Maybe you'll be encouraged to make more, and then every time you make a knife, you'll have an opportunity to share in new experiences with your friend.

Take care, and let us know if you need anything.
 
Hi Dave,
Sorry for your loss....and that is what it is, a loss. It is OK to grieve. You and your friend sounded close and it is OK to hurt because it does hurt. It hurts like hell. There is nothing abnormal about feeling grief. Anger, sorrow, joy at remembering even some depression are just some of the normal emotions you will feel. How you normalize these feelings is different with each person. I suggest you talk about your friend. Writing helps, so go ahead and write a tribute here about your friend. Let us learn a bit about him too that way we can appreciate him also.

Sounds like you're going to be a knife maker. Name your first model after him. That would be a great tribute to your friend and a good way to remember him. You show how honorable you are by posting this. Please accept my sincere condolences.
 
Sorry to hear this, I know what its like. Last Time one of my friends died, (3 of them have) I went to the shooting range my dad's bud built in the mountains near his house. Hope ya Get thru this man.

Condolences,

Steve
 
Thanks for the replies guys... I really appreciate it. some good advice there... I think I will share a little about Rob.


If any of you had ever met him, you'd agree with me in a heartbeat. Within 3 seconds of meeting this guy, you knew he was a genuine person... I'm not BS'ing when I say that he was the kindest, most thoughtful person I have EVER met. Plus... He was a STUD! This guy had every girl in high school lusting after him... but he never seemed to realize it... he just thought the girls thought he was a "nice guy". and he was... he always underestimated himself.

I could literally write all night about experiences we have shared in the past, but I'll suffice it to say that Rob was a gentleman of gentlemen and I'm sure gonna miss him a whole, whole bunch!

I am going to make sure that I am available to help out his wife and his 1 year old son as much as I can....

I guess I am feeling a little bitter about things right now... I mean, life is very strange at times... If things were just and fair, truly GOOD and GENUINE people like Rob would be the last to go. but he was only 29. He never drank, smoked, did any drugs, nothing! If it were judged by such things... I'd have died way befroe him. (no drugs... but too much beer and cigs in the past)


Anyway... thanks for reading.. I need to get this off my chest!


-Dave
 
I lost one of my very best friends about seven years ago when he was suddenly killed in an accident at the car stereo shop he worked in. It happened so fast, and at his service I got to see him one more time, looking much as he usually did, but more relaxed. Then he was gone. I couldn't call him, but I could talk to him. He still sort of seems like he's around. I actually refer to him as my friend Dead Dave. It's kind of the way we would have joked with each other. The fast transition has hade Dave's passing pretty bearable.

The brain cancer is a whole other story. About 2.5 years ago my friend Donald passed away from brain cancer. It was about a year after he was diagnosed and had started having symptoms. Donald's wife Sandy is my wife's very best friend. To make it worse, they had a four year old little boy Tyler. And as for timing, Donald passed a week to the day before my wife and I were to be married, with Sandy to be Maid of Honor. It was a pretty stressful thing, especially seeing what that disease does to a person and how slowly it works. It destroys a person slowly from the inside and wreaks havoc on all those in the extended family. I'm sorry to hear you had to go through that.

Just this past Saturday night we got a call that our friend Gary passed away from Diabetes/ Brain cancer. He gave my wife away at our wedding. They've been friends for over 25 years. Gary was a really nice guy. He turned me on to the author Charles Bukowski. Bukowski is dark, but funny as hell.

I was also hit by a truck while riding on a motorcycle (1984 Honda VF1000F Interceptor) about 5.5 years ago and could well have been dead myself. I couldn't walk for 3.5 months after two weeks in the hospital.

These things make you realize that no matter how big and bad you are, no matter how well armed, that there are certain things in life over which you are completely powerless. No matter how well prepared you are for almost every circumstance, there's stuff you can't influence. For me, i'm a big guy. I'm a knife and gun collecting, high horespower, bigger amp and speakers kind of guy. To accept that there is nothing I can do about a particular thing is hard to swallow. But in time you have to come to that realization and accept it, because it is the truth.

These things have actually convinced me that there is a God although i'm still not so hot on organized religions.

One of the most important things I've learned is that you have to try to take care of yourself, both physically and mentally, even though in the end we are all going to die one way or the other. While that is also a truth, it is not healthy to dwell on it. Don't get so caught up by being confronted by your own mortality that you forget to keep on living.

While it is true that your friend is not with you anymore, remember it is he who has died and not you. There are people in your life who need you.

The deaths of my friends and a recent health scare with my Mom (brain aneurysm in Nov., but she is walking and talking again after she spent six weeks in a coma) are what have really pushed me to try my hand at knife making. One way to confront my mortality is to make something that will outlive me and will say something about me to future generations. I am new and have ground out four blades but not finished one yet, but I am determined to make a good knife before I die. I'll be forty in six weeks.

The internet and in particular, the way communities develop in these forum type websites is truly amazing to me. My Mom was active on a forum called Flyertalk. When her brain thing happened it was amazing how those people rallied together to help her. They did far more for her than my brother and I could have done by ourselves.

I'm glad to be part of this forum and to be able to help support you at this terrible time. I know this is a long post and am not trying to make the thread about me, but am still dealing with similar issue (especially since Sat) and want to let you know that you're not alone.

Just my opinion.

jmx

PS: Claw mentioned going to the range. That's a reaction to the anger from feeling so powerless. You have to deal with the anger as well. I've found that cleaning and organizing my office or garage or something makes me feel better. Work with the things you can have some control over. I'm also looking into life insurance. I have knives and guns to protect my house and family, but life insurance is a more practical and useful defense weapon to protect the family with in most circumstances.
 
Dave

Sorry to hear about the loss of your good friend. Helping with his family is a good way to honor him, and I'm sure he is resting in peace knowing you will be there for his family.

As long as he remains in your memory, part of him will always be alive.

I think it will be cool to make the knife he helped influence, and lay it to rest with him.

Take care.
 
My condolences...

The best way to honor the fallen is to remember them. There's no easy way to deal--you just do. Take care dude.

-Z
 
My condolences. When I'm feeling low, I like to either go for a long hike or go running. The hiking gives me time to think, the running keeps me from thinking too much.
 
I'm so sorry...I had a good friend of mine die from cancer that spread to her brain about 8 years ago. To this day I still cry when I think about her. One never forgets.

I think time is the only thing that will ease the pain. Don't feel that you have to do anything with your feelings right now. Just be and experiance them. Although your friend is gone from this plane of existance he lives on through your thoughts, memories and feelings.

Take it slow,

S.
 
Dave, you have my sympathy. I have lost friends over the years. As one gets older the losses get more frequent but it never gets easier. Be comforted by the thought that you were his friend and treated him as a friend while he was with you.

Bill
 
I went through the same thing a few years ago after my very best friend did not make it through a 3 year brain cancer battle.

I am going to disagree with some things. First you have to grieve and get over the fact that you and your friend will not see each other (at least on this earth). I would stay away from activities that keep you from going through that grieving process. Like Greg said it hurts like hell.

I was with my friend Glenn almost every day during those three years. (By almost you could count the days we were not together on the fingers of two hands). I was numb and going through the motions of funeral prep (although we had previously picked out a plot and casket together).

I was numb when I had to speak at his funeral and try to console his family. It was not untill after that was over that I started dealing with the loss.

Once that mourning is under control, it becomes much easier to look at all the positive aspects of your friend that became positive aspects of you. That is what lives on when a friend dies and it lives on in the people your friend was close to.

You will realize that because of the relationship that you had you were blessed. In my case my friend taught me how to live each minute and to turn bad things into good things rather than dwelling on the bad and he also taught me how to die. I am sure that there were things said and done between you two during that long illness that at some point in the future you will be able to see as gifts your friend left for you. It is up to you to take those gifts and spread them around your friends and family, because when it comes down to it that is all that is left.

I know it hurts and I could talk about this forever (or at least a while), if I can help please email me.
 
My condolences Dave. I work with patients with brain cancer, strokes and head injuries, and experience the loss with patient's families and friends. I am always at a loss as to what to say, and find that just being "present" and availible is enough. So I (and everyone here) am here for you Dave. Peace, Josh
 
I'm very sorry to hear that, and I don't know any better to help then others... but I know that you shouldn't dwell with the bad... I've done that before and that did nothing better than causing me chronic insomnia.
I stopped dwell on the bad and then my sleep improved.
 
Hey Dave just had to give my spin on this, sorry about your loss no amount of words could ever replace your friend. Having been through this more times than I care to remember sometimes,(as recently as 9-11-01). Know that your not alone, the more you talk about it, the more you'll realize that the thing that makes this hard now, (the closeness you felt, and the memories you shared), are the things that will carry you through this in the future, that being those same memories. The more you have, (memories),the more you'll remember. and that's what will keep his memory alive, not the knife, not the pictures, (although they help), it'll be the memories, and closeness you shared.

You said you had just come from the hospital, if you were there with him when he died you gave him the best gift anyone could have given, you were there for him till the end, and being there is one of the most precious memories you'll have. Knowing you did everything for him that you could, should make you proud, and anyone who calls you friend should be proud to have someone so compassionate and loyal as a friend.

Remember keep the memory alive by talking about it, and if you need to vent E-mail me.

1 more thing, something a priest once told me, "It's ok to be angry with God, just don't forget he cried with you too"

Peace & Love, Forever
 
I hear ya!

someone I know died and I went on a trip to get through it and did alot of things that were not my higher self so to speak.

so I would be careful......accepting it is the hardest thing it is like a walking in a swamp and there is no alternate route you gotta walk through the ****. But there is light at the end of the tunnel but you won't see it if you are drunk and chasing girls to runaway from it.

good luck
 
You guys Rock! Thanks for bending an ear... I am fell lots better today. His wife is holding up like a champ (She was even trying to help me feel better!) It sucks.. that's sure... but We'll all pull through, and hopefully be the stronger for it. Thanks again guys... I appreciate the support.

-Dave
 
Dave
The hurt does ease-up with time, and you are doing right by focusing on the good from knowing your friend, Rob. I found that by staying close with my friend's family (and helping-out around his house with stuff Gary would have done for them) I was helping myself find some comfort, too.
I still "hear" my buddy's laugh, and it has been 2 years. I carry his memory, but not the pain.
Best wishes,
Brian
 
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