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Normally I do not post about Pearl Harbor day, until a day or two after Dec 7, that is because usually I wait until no one else mentions it. By the way I did not even see a mention of this subject in my local paper today. You see opinions are really the force that writes history. It is not in vogue now to use terms like Nip, gook, kraut ect. It is also not good to remember the Alamo ( sorry Don ) So I have decided to change my venue.
Instead of chastising, for no one giving a Damn about those who sacrificed so much to give us the freedoms that we take for granted. Instead I have decided to see if someone can give me some help in answering a question.
I am sure that many of you who collect items have suffered periferial collecting syndrome or PCS. This is when in the course of looking for specific items or artifacts you come accross something or buy a collection of something and find suddenly you are in possession of some other item which starts you on an entirely new field of collecting. Over the years in my quest for knives and memorbilia, this has happened to me innumerable times. I am especially vulnerable to PCS. I have the resistence of a kitten to a ball of yarn. I become addicted to anything that I find curious which is almost everything.
That being said over the years many items have built up regarding military memorbilia ect. Many of the people I have known over the years have contributed to this hodge podge. These people have all passed on ( whoops there I go again being my same old maudlin self ). I had a friend who I met in Dublin when he was 75 Andy Cormack ( he was a distant relative of Danl Boone ), Andy was a chief in the Navy and retired in 1955 so that should tell you how far back he went. He used to tell me that the officers used to wear pointed hats at ceremonys when he first went in, he had photos of heads being chopped off from when he was in China. The night I met Andy ( everyone called him chief ) he and I got drunk in an irish pub on Guinness and Tullamore Dew. He ended up in a hospital that night but was back the next day with a pint in his hand. He lived 15 years after that. I believe that at 75 fifteen years of life and being able to drink is better than living 20 by being abstenent. He also had an eye for the ladies and a sense of humor he used to have a line where he would tell, of when he was stationed at Pearl harbor ( before DEC 41 ) he used to say that was where he learned to play the ukele ( spelling) . Then if he was telling the story to a lady he would ask her if she wanted to know his favorite Hawaian song? Being polite and usually much younger most would say sure what is it. His answer was COMMONA WANNA LAYA. Because of his age and almost elfish way he could get away with that. Andy as I said was a Chief in the Navy and in those days that was a rather esteemed position once while docked in Scotland he managed to procure a few items and got them to his relatives thirty years later they were still thanking him and claimed the cigarettes and food he got for them ( which they used for barter ) helped them make it through the war ). Yes things were a bit different then. Andy donated to my little side collection with a few items over the years one interesting set were two artillary shells used by his ship in Sicily to bring down a german pilot. Andy used his status to have them turned into trench art and had them decorated with the coins and Nazi eagle and swastika hat ornament he (the pilot) wore, some how welded on to the shells.
So have you figured out my clever ruse. You see I said that I would not get sentimental or make people remember but it was obviously a lie. I am still doing the same thing Andy is now long gone but tonight I shall have a drop of the dew ( TULLAMORE ) to remember him.
My title for this posting says I have a question and I do. While I have an idea about much of the history of many of the items in this military side collection there are a couple of items that I could use a hand in identifying. I have several flags and such which are pretty normal stuff. I have however two pieces of Japanese WWII memorbilia that I would like to get some information on, What is written, what they were used for possible value ect. One is a silk flag with tassels, rays, and something written. The other is a banner ( guessing around 7 feet long ). It also has writing, this piece has several holes and was obviously torn from a wall ( or similar ) since 3 of the corners are gone. It also sports what looks like several spots of DNA although I do not know if they are Allied or Axis in nature. For all I know this could be the sign off a used car lot selling mitsubishi cars or for that matter mitsubishi planes ( the zeros used in bombing pearl harbor were mitsubishi manufactured ) . Perhapes you might want to remember that the next time you start your car. Whoops there I go again. I tend to forget that the familys of the 2400 people who lost there lives on Dec 7 1941 have forgiven those who killed there loved ones and that the familys of the 100,000 Japanese who got melted in Hiro and Nag have also let bygones be bygones and now are our friends and economic partners and can be trusted just like they were trusted prior to Dec 7, 1941. Yup sorry sometimes I forget that it is a kinder gentler world and that human nature has changed just look around at what is going on in the world and you can see that it is all different now. The leopard is now spotless.
See I told you no messages this DEC 7 just good old buddy buddy happy stuff. Hey I am a new man you can sell me anything even a Jap car or knife if it is a couple of dollars cheaper after all I am an american and you can sell me anything.
I am posting the pics of the two war items in question if any one has any information I would appreciate it. Upon finding out what I can ( what they are value ect) I will decide what I am going to do with them. Whatever I do I will not dishonor them because while I have no love for the enemy someone would have to be even more of a fool than myself to ever doubt these peoples determination that they showed during this conflict. To denergrate the enemy only lessens the value of defeating them.
So how did I do see no lessons, no chiding, no lectures, just a nice simple mention of the day and a question. LT P.S. Sorry I just cannot change that much Thankyou all from George Washington to Iraq and everyone in in between for all your sacrifices so that one old man can sit in a chair and babble as he wishs with out rear of retribution. Was it worth it you bet because it is all that matters. You are not forgotten.
PPS On what these say please no jokes like We will serve no rice wine before its time. Or Mensroom. Or Confusious say many man smoke but FU MAN CHEW. You get the idea.
Instead of chastising, for no one giving a Damn about those who sacrificed so much to give us the freedoms that we take for granted. Instead I have decided to see if someone can give me some help in answering a question.
I am sure that many of you who collect items have suffered periferial collecting syndrome or PCS. This is when in the course of looking for specific items or artifacts you come accross something or buy a collection of something and find suddenly you are in possession of some other item which starts you on an entirely new field of collecting. Over the years in my quest for knives and memorbilia, this has happened to me innumerable times. I am especially vulnerable to PCS. I have the resistence of a kitten to a ball of yarn. I become addicted to anything that I find curious which is almost everything.
That being said over the years many items have built up regarding military memorbilia ect. Many of the people I have known over the years have contributed to this hodge podge. These people have all passed on ( whoops there I go again being my same old maudlin self ). I had a friend who I met in Dublin when he was 75 Andy Cormack ( he was a distant relative of Danl Boone ), Andy was a chief in the Navy and retired in 1955 so that should tell you how far back he went. He used to tell me that the officers used to wear pointed hats at ceremonys when he first went in, he had photos of heads being chopped off from when he was in China. The night I met Andy ( everyone called him chief ) he and I got drunk in an irish pub on Guinness and Tullamore Dew. He ended up in a hospital that night but was back the next day with a pint in his hand. He lived 15 years after that. I believe that at 75 fifteen years of life and being able to drink is better than living 20 by being abstenent. He also had an eye for the ladies and a sense of humor he used to have a line where he would tell, of when he was stationed at Pearl harbor ( before DEC 41 ) he used to say that was where he learned to play the ukele ( spelling) . Then if he was telling the story to a lady he would ask her if she wanted to know his favorite Hawaian song? Being polite and usually much younger most would say sure what is it. His answer was COMMONA WANNA LAYA. Because of his age and almost elfish way he could get away with that. Andy as I said was a Chief in the Navy and in those days that was a rather esteemed position once while docked in Scotland he managed to procure a few items and got them to his relatives thirty years later they were still thanking him and claimed the cigarettes and food he got for them ( which they used for barter ) helped them make it through the war ). Yes things were a bit different then. Andy donated to my little side collection with a few items over the years one interesting set were two artillary shells used by his ship in Sicily to bring down a german pilot. Andy used his status to have them turned into trench art and had them decorated with the coins and Nazi eagle and swastika hat ornament he (the pilot) wore, some how welded on to the shells.
So have you figured out my clever ruse. You see I said that I would not get sentimental or make people remember but it was obviously a lie. I am still doing the same thing Andy is now long gone but tonight I shall have a drop of the dew ( TULLAMORE ) to remember him.
My title for this posting says I have a question and I do. While I have an idea about much of the history of many of the items in this military side collection there are a couple of items that I could use a hand in identifying. I have several flags and such which are pretty normal stuff. I have however two pieces of Japanese WWII memorbilia that I would like to get some information on, What is written, what they were used for possible value ect. One is a silk flag with tassels, rays, and something written. The other is a banner ( guessing around 7 feet long ). It also has writing, this piece has several holes and was obviously torn from a wall ( or similar ) since 3 of the corners are gone. It also sports what looks like several spots of DNA although I do not know if they are Allied or Axis in nature. For all I know this could be the sign off a used car lot selling mitsubishi cars or for that matter mitsubishi planes ( the zeros used in bombing pearl harbor were mitsubishi manufactured ) . Perhapes you might want to remember that the next time you start your car. Whoops there I go again. I tend to forget that the familys of the 2400 people who lost there lives on Dec 7 1941 have forgiven those who killed there loved ones and that the familys of the 100,000 Japanese who got melted in Hiro and Nag have also let bygones be bygones and now are our friends and economic partners and can be trusted just like they were trusted prior to Dec 7, 1941. Yup sorry sometimes I forget that it is a kinder gentler world and that human nature has changed just look around at what is going on in the world and you can see that it is all different now. The leopard is now spotless.
See I told you no messages this DEC 7 just good old buddy buddy happy stuff. Hey I am a new man you can sell me anything even a Jap car or knife if it is a couple of dollars cheaper after all I am an american and you can sell me anything.
I am posting the pics of the two war items in question if any one has any information I would appreciate it. Upon finding out what I can ( what they are value ect) I will decide what I am going to do with them. Whatever I do I will not dishonor them because while I have no love for the enemy someone would have to be even more of a fool than myself to ever doubt these peoples determination that they showed during this conflict. To denergrate the enemy only lessens the value of defeating them.
So how did I do see no lessons, no chiding, no lectures, just a nice simple mention of the day and a question. LT P.S. Sorry I just cannot change that much Thankyou all from George Washington to Iraq and everyone in in between for all your sacrifices so that one old man can sit in a chair and babble as he wishs with out rear of retribution. Was it worth it you bet because it is all that matters. You are not forgotten.
PPS On what these say please no jokes like We will serve no rice wine before its time. Or Mensroom. Or Confusious say many man smoke but FU MAN CHEW. You get the idea.
