Delica vs. Leek?

Ritt

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NO, I am not trying to start a pissing contest or a bash-fest. Just looking for advice from the experienced. Can anyone compare the SS Delica to the basic SS Leek. The Leek looks to be a very similar size, different blade shape and material. Looks like the Leek can be had for about $30, which seems a good deal, IF it's near Spyder quality and ergos. And what about the "speedsafe" opening system? I like/use/trust Spydies (not so crazy about the 'Fly, but that's a different subject entirely), but I'm always looking for new toys. Again, no bashing please.

All feedback appreciated.
 
The Delica has high-end VG-10 steel. The Leek has 'ordinary?' 440A steel.

Ted

Edit: oops - :footinmou noticed you wanted the SS Delica - that has AUS-6 ... don't know how that compares to 440A
 
Ritt said:
NO, I am not trying to start a pissing contest or a bash-fest. Just looking for advice from the experienced. Can anyone compare the SS Delica to the basic SS Leek. The Leek looks to be a very similar size, different blade shape and material. Looks like the Leek can be had for about $30, which seems a good deal, IF it's near Spyder quality and ergos. And what about the "speedsafe" opening system? I like/use/trust Spydies (not so crazy about the 'Fly, but that's a different subject entirely), but I'm always looking for new toys. Again, no bashing please.

All feedback appreciated.

Both are good. I think the Delica feels alot better in my hand though, and the Spyderco hole is a better opener then a stud for me. The heat treat on the Spyder is better too. I like lock backs better then liners too...

Oh, what the hell, just by both! They are cheap!! ;) I prefer the Delica though.
-Kevin
 
I have a Kershaw Chive. I was pleasantly surprised of the manufacturing quality and the way it performs. Kershaw's customer service is top notch too. The blade sharpens easily and has a decent edge retention. Not to mention the assisted opening is a cool feature. Overall, a knife I am very pleased of.
Yet, my very EDC remains the Delica (FRN, SE, VG-10). The SS version is OK, but I preffer FRN because of the lightweight and improved grip.
 
I don't think it is an even comparison. The Delica has high a performance steel blade and a very ergonomic design. Your get very high quality knife making few compromises at a price competitive with lower cost knives.
 
First off, I have to agree with all the previous comments of our fellow forumites on this subject. I too will say the Delica is a better choice than that of the Leek, for two reasons.

1. I like the way a Spyderco opens. Thumb in hole. Open. Blade locks. Done.
Knives that have "Assisted Opening" blades to me are just extra bells and
whistles you don't really need. And eventually it will fail.

2. Spring Assisted opening knives are not legal everywhere. Case in point,
their illegal here in Michigan.


~Jeff
 
I don't own both, but I have a Leek and my girlfriend regularly carries a SS Delica, so I'm familiar with both. While they're similar in length and materials, they're very different knives.

The Delica, while no Military or Temperance, "fills the hand" better than the Leek does. Now Ken Onion can design a handle, and the Leek's very comfortable, but it's still a fairly slim knife that gets uncomfrtable for me if I use it for too long. The Delica has less of that problem.

Both knives are tip-up/tip-down reversible.

As was mentioned before, the Speedsafe mechanism, while it falls within the letter of the law, may still not be safe to carry. A balisong doesn't fit the definition of a gravity knife, either, but that doesn't stop police from seizing them or DA's from prosecuting. If you have trouble with a cop for any reason (your fault or not, arrested or not, and whether or not you're charged with anything), there's a halfway decent chance he'll decide you shouldn't have it and take it away. Then you'll have to jump through hoops to get it back (if you even manage to get it back). I dig the Speedsafes, but I'm not sure they're worth the trouble.
I also figure it's only a matter of time before more state governments decide to define these things as automatics, so I wouldn't want to get too attached to carrying one.

Despite the potential legal problems, the assisted opening really _is_ kinda neat. And it's in contrast to the Delica, which'll most likely start out "tight" and gradually wear in (it'll still require a tiny bit of "effort" to open relative to liner locks or axis locks, but I find it trivial. Especially when you're using a round opening hole).

My final note regarding the Speedsafe: beware of cracking springs. I have a three-year-old Chive that's now a manual opener. The "torsion bar" that drives the assisted opening gave out. Of the five Kershaw assisted openers that I've seen in use for long periods, this is the only problem I've seen with a torsion bar. I wouldn't honestly worry too much about it, but it is a consideration.

I have no problem with either lock. standard Spyderco quality on the Delica, and a well-made framelock on the Leek.

The steel is an issue to me. They _seem_ to be roughly equivalent on paper, but I see a noticable difference between Spyderco's AUS-6 and Kershaw's 440A. They're both easy to sharpen, but the Kershaw's gonna need sharpening a bit more often. Not a big deal if you touch up your knives frequently.

I think it's most important to know your needs. If you want a slick, pretty knife that'll impress your friends and serve you well for light use, the Leek's an excellent choice. The Delica, OTOH, is a better alternative for everything from light to heavy use, and it'll serve you well for a lifetime (both knives have very fine points, though, so make sure you use them properly)

The SS Delica is a distinctly better work knife, but the Leek's distinctly "cooler". And neither is what I'd call a bad knife.

On the other hand, Alton Brown carries a SS Delica, so that kinda tips the coolness balance ;)
 
Michigan did change the wording of it's law to include assisted openers. That's at least one state down.

~Jeff
 
I have both... well okay I have an Endura but it's the same thing as a Delica just bigger.

The Endura sees a lot more pocket time although they're both good knives. Personally although I like the Leek I think the opening mechanism and its slimmer profile are its selling points, for me at least. A Leek is one of the most socially palatable knives I've ever owned.

But the Endura has seen a lot more heavy use and a lot more pocket time. Something about that design just screams "Use Me Instead!"
 
I have to go with the Leek.

The Leek is lighter-weight for easy poacket carry,

The SS Delica's AUS-6 is certainly no better than the Leek's 440A.

The Leek has the best opening mechanism between the two. And even should the torsion bar break, the knife will still function just fine as a traditional frame-lock.
And the safety keeps it from opening in your pocket.

If Sal would give the SS Delica ATS-55 or VG-10 bladesteel, and use cutout slots to lighten the weight, then it would be the clear winner.

Allen.
 
Thanks to all who responded, your input is much appreciated. I am now informed to the point that I'll probably never be able to make a decision. Can anyone decipher Ken Onion's remark for me? Inside joke that the FNG (me) just doesn't get? Thanks again.
 
Don't know if it's a joke. Probably a reference to the statement earlier in the thread where it's said that Alton Brown carries an SS Delica.

On Alton Brown's site I see he promotes Kershaw knives, and since Ken Onion is Mr. Kershaw as far as I know, I wouldn't be surprised if Alton Brown has a custom Kershaw 'Bump' model ( the Bump is an actual Kershaw model).

But, maybe I'm missing the joke as well since I've never met Ken Onion or know what and who Alton Brown is .... :) ;) :D

Ted
 
I checked out Alton Brown's website. He does carry a set of Kershaw kitchen knives. But from the looks of the site, it may be a different style of "bump" than what I'd be looking for. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
 
Ken:

Does he really? Can you tell me, by any chance, when he got it?

I ask only because he's used a SS Delica several times on his show, so a lot of us assumed it's an EDC.

(And I assume by "custom" you mean one of your handmades, as opposed to a special-run of the production version, right?)
 
Blade O4 he just talked me out of it . befor that I always saw him with a kershaw Blurr or a Boa . He is our celebrity kitchen knife guy at Kershaw . Maybe he carried the Delica befor he started working with us . Personally I also love the Delica and many other Spyderco knives.I also have nothing but respect for Sal and the rest of the Spyderco clan . I was just making a point .Alton loves his custom Bump best I can tell and would doubt he would let it out of his hand easily. Alton is a super nice guyand a friend .
 
I have both the Leek and Delica, and they are both great designs and both of them see time in my EDC rotation. They offer different sets of technology, they feel completely different in the hand from one another, have completely different visual appeal...about the only thing they really have in common is that they both have pocket clips and they both cost about the same amount of money. It all comes down to which one feels right to you when you handle it. Or, if you're like me, you'll just end up buying both anyway, so resistance is futile! :D

Ted:
If you have even a mild interest in cooking (and eating!) you should check out Alton Brown's show "Good Eats" on the Food Network. (don't know if they broadcast in the Netherlands...) It is by far the most entertaining and original cooking show I have ever seen. Alton is a very witty writer and he packs an amazing amount of food science facts and clever pop-culture type humor into his shows. The reason I like his show better than other cooking shows (besides the Alton factor alone) is that he doesn't just rotely prepare a bunch of recipes -- he actually explains HOW to cook things scientifically so that they turn out great every time. He gives you all the "tricks of the trade" that professional chefs know, and then explains how and why they work. To make things even more interesting, he comes up with all sorts of "kitchen hacks" where he uses everyday items to replace expensive kitchen gear, such as roasting chickens in flowerpots and using a mortar trowel in place of an expensive pie server. Plus, he's a bonafide "knife knut"...what's not to like!

Ken:
Thanks for chiming in and sharing the Alton tidbits. I am a big fan of both of you guys, and I dream about someday owning one of your customs! If Alton is anything like he is on his show in person, I am not at all surprised that he managed to talk you out of that Bump!!
 
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