Demantled Native5 Lightweight

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Did anyone demantled the Native5 S35VN?I want to know if there any copper space in?
I come from Taiwan, but I can't find any information in here, help me please..:p
 
It uses a "space age" polymer three washer patented system that explodes upon disassembly making it highly resistant to counterfeit. :thumbdn:
Be careful.
 
They make quite a few knives without washers. All of the salt knives lack washers for example. Some knives also come with polymer washers. Polymer can work very well. Why can't smooth polymer against smooth steel feel smooth if the tolerances are spot on?
 
bearfacedkiller said:
They make quite a few knives without washers. All of the salt knives lack washers for example. Some knives also come with polymer washers. Polymer can work very well. Why can't smooth polymer against smooth steel feel smooth if the tolerances are spot on?
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I don't think it is a matter of smoothness... I think it is a matter of how do polymer washers last compared to phosporus bronze washers... Many people (myself included) may think that "plastic" is always going to wear out faster than "metal". We could be totally wrong, of course.
 
What a coincidence; I just decided to open up my Native 5 FRN today and snap a pic.

The construction is very elegant for an FRN knife - probably the best I've seen. I imagine the ribbing is there to give it rigidity (and it is extremely rigid; it resists flex very well when you try to squeeze the two scales together).

I also like how one scale fits into the other via the backspacer. It makes for very clean disassembly, and you don't have to do any tricks to put it back together again (like with the Delica and its lockbar - the backspacer's nipple misses the liner if you have the blade and the lockbar in).

As for washers: there are none. The action certainly isn't the smoothest ever.

It's a very good knife, though, especially for the money. If you're looking for something more heavy-duty, consider the G10 or CF versions. The fit and finish are much better, too.

 
Mikel,

The OP specifically asked about the smoothness which is why I commented on that.

The word plastic is such a terrible word for synthetic polymer materials. Spyderco has been making knives for years without washers. The steel is riding on frn which is crazy stuff. Do you expect the handle to wear out as well because it doesn't. I have synthetic pistols and rifle stocks that have been to hell and back an look almost new after a little cleaning. This stuff isn't just cheap plastic.

I don't have a very old delica but there are people who do have 20 year old users that also look fine. There is a guy over on the Spyderco forum who dropped a frn Native like 300 or 400 feet onto gravel and it was fine. This stuff shouldn't be wearing out from normal use.

Maybe the frn will wear out faster than steel but it still gonna take a lifetime to wear out either.
 
bearfacedkiller said:
Mikel,
...The word plastic is such a terrible word for synthetic polymer materials...
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I typed the word plastic between quotes so as to indicate that general knowledge about synthetic materials is far from accurate. Each application requires specific characteristics and sometimes a polymer is the best alternative. I was just trying to point out the general feeling about synthetic materials, that's all.

I don't have the luck of being arround firearms here in Spain but I am around spearguns and some pieces of the mechanisms are, indeed, high end polymers. I know what you mean.

I happen to have an old serrated Delica (clipit model, with integrated synthetic pocket clip) I bought here in the exchange. It was a beater (bent tip and all) but it still opens fairly smooth. However, being the synthetic material softer than most metals, I expect that any grit that gets in between the blade and scales at the pivot area, will scratch and posibly get embebed in the scale material. I am thinking about sand, for instance.

Oh! and we dropped an Spyderco Rescue while multipitch climbing, it bounced arround for like 60m and we later found it at the bottom of the cliff. It was just like new!
 
No problem, I saw the quotes on plastic and knew what you meant. When Glocks were first catching on there was so much pushback here in the US and people called them combat tupperware because of that perception of polymers that we tend to have. We seem to be more and more accepting of polymers as time goes on. The other problem is that in some industries cheap "plastic" is indeed used to save cost at the expense of quality, like automobile interiors for example.
 
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