Desired Frog Length On 18"WWII

Big Bob

Big Bob

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For those of you who have an 18" WWII, how far should the frog loop extend beyond the scabbard mouth, in your opinion(s)? The frog loop on my 18" WWII extends just over 4" from the scabbard mouth. When I'm carrying it on my belt and draw it, the entire khukuri and scabbard are pulled up before the khukuri comes out. In contrast, the loop on my old 16.5" WWII extends less than an inch past the mouth, and is great for speedy draws. I'm planning to get another 18" WWII in the (hopefully) not too distant future and would like the frog to be fixed more in the center (so that the loop doesn't extend far from the mouth). Would this be ideal for a khuk this size? Or would there be problems such as the khuk being too tight against you?

Bob
 
Bob, I'm glad you brought that topic up. I keep forgetting to talk about this.

I have a lot of problems with my khuk scabbards that have frogs attached lower down around the scabbard. The whole khukuri flops around when I walk because the whole rig is top heavy. To me, that's far more annoying than having the scabbard rise up with your khuk when you try to draw it. And as you know, it's not very easy or practical to mount a leg tie to the scabbard.

I would like to see the scabbards made with the frog mounted as high up on the scabbard as possible. If the belt loop is so long that the whole scabbard comes up with the blade when you try to unsheath it, then it seems to me the solution would be to simply shorten the belt loop rather than to mount the frog lower down on the scabbard. I think this is one of the few areas that needs improvement--too much "top flop" on the rigs when the frog isn't mounted high enough. I know that it's not hard to fix this, but why not have it come that way? At least if the sarkis put them on that way from the beginning, the tooling at the top of the scabbard won't be hidden after I move the frog up and there won't be a bald strip where the frog was originally mounted over where there is no tooling. Just my input; everyone else's mileage will surely vary. Other than that I am very pleased with the new frogs--super heavy duty leather, and I like the all black "grommetless" look.

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[This message has been edited by X-Head (edited 11-21-2000).]
 
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Bob if the frogs you have are split and laced you can easily adjust the length by unlaceing the frog and either trimming close to the holes and relaceing or even by cutting off one side past the holes and punching new ones and relaceing.
Make it to what you would prefer. I believe that's why the military type frogs have double straps and are, or used to be adjustable.

Gotta run, be back to answer a couple other posts in a while, mainly the one Rusty posted about the Chief Executive. I am now puzzed more than usual.<G>
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X-Head, the frog on my 16.5" WWII is mounted in the center. I don't notice any excess flopping myself, but larger models may be more prone to this. Do you have this problem with mainly the larger khuks (18" and up)?

Yvsa, thanks for the advice. I may have to try that sometime myself.

Bob
 
Bob, the last khuk I got was like you describe. The loop itself was unusually long, then, to make matters worse, the frog was so high that it was almost at the opening of the sheath, to where it is possible to pull down on the sheath and pull it out of the frog. Part of the problem was that the sarki failed to put the little strip of leather around the top part of the sheath to prevent the "ride up." And to lace the frog any tighter I'd have to repunch the holes. I'm not sure how I'm going to fix the problem, but I'll obviously have to do something before wearing the rig.

It may be my imagination, but it seems to me that the loops of the frogs are indeed getting longer, resulting in the sheaths riding lower. I'm going to have to check that out by looking at the loop lengths of some of my older frogs.

[This message has been edited by Steven F (edited 11-22-2000).]
 
The frog on my 18" WWII was just like yours Steven, long frog loop and the frog was almost as high as the scabbard's mouth.

Bob
 
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