Destroying a Pakastani (knife)

Walking Man

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Hello.
I have a Pakastani knife that I would love to field test to compare it to my new HK.
While I'm out there, I am thinking about trying to chop in half. Common sense might say this is a really bad idea; However, I've heard how well HIs stand up, and Pakistanis don't. I've also heard of custom makers slicing up other brand knives with their own. **IF** you guys say I probably won't hurt anything, what I will do is duct tape the Pakistani to a log before chopping into in, for my safety, Does this sound reasonably safe to you guys? I also have safety gogles, but I didn't think about using them until just now. Do any of you guys feel the need to wear such gogles when playing or chopping? All advice greatly appreciated, humbly yours.
 
Hello.
I have a Pakastani knife that I would love to field test to compare it to my new HK. While I'm out there, I am thinking about trying to chop in half. Common sense might say this is a really bad idea;
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Yep, I agree.

Does this sound reasonably safe to you guys? I also have safety gogles, but I didn't think about using them until just now. Do any of you guys feel the need to wear such gogles when playing or chopping?
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Safety glasses are ALWAYS adviseable when using tools of any kind. 99% of the time you don't need them. But for that 1% of the time when a piece of metal, wood, stone, etc. strikes at your eyes, you will be thankful for them. And not blind.
 
At the least, you will severely damage the edge of your HI if you try this. I recently chopped up some car parts as part of my extreme testing of a 2 for 1 AK special (details and pics to come along shortly :) ), and while the knife survived, the edge didn't. If you still want to try it, I HIGHLY recommend that you wear safety goggles and thick clothing. Pieces of either knife could shear off and come in your direction at high speed. I wore safety glasses while chopping the aforementioned car parts, but while clearing trails and chopping wood, I don't feel the need as I'm usually wearing my eyeglasses which provide at least minimal protection. It depends on what you're willing to put up with comfort wise.
 
Does this sound reasonably safe to you guys?
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No, sounds kind of dumb to me. A khukuri is a tool, not a toy. Use it properly for what it's designed to do, and it'll outlive you and your children. Use it for hare brained stuff like this, and neither you or it are liable to last very long. Oh well, Darwin and Murphy are drinking buddies...............

Sarge
 
I doubt you're gonna be able to accoomplish much. The Pakistani khuk is probably at least 1/4" thick and an inch or two wide. I'd use a saw.

Ferrous Wheel has cut coins with his, but coins are thinner and not hardened.

Sorta like jumping off a 30 story building to see if the human body could survive such an impact. :(

Dunno.. I'd be interested in the results but I figure I already know the outcome. :confused:
 
If you really want to compare the steels,
try shaving the spine of the other.
Gently, it either will or won't.
Use the hardened sweet spot on the belly.
If it does shave, then try shaving the opposing edges,
again gently and on the sweet spot.

You might, or more likely not,
find that the non-hi knife happens to be properly tempered.
Tourist metal won't be.
But you -might- have one that was made to be used.

BTW, if the other knife is chromed this probably won't work.
I think chrome is too hard.
But then, if not well applied the chrome might flake off.
 
For maximum enjoyment, Pakistani knives are better disposed of with a .45 from a reasonable and safe distance away. :D
 
Cliff Stamp and I share the same philosophy about destruction testing. You know you are going to "probably" destroy the knife you are testing so it is written off before you start. If it survives then you are in the real +++ category.

The value of destruction testing is it tells you how much abuse a knife (or anything else for that matter -- we used to weight up a wing to see how much it would take before it ripped off the fuselage) will take before it fails and this is good stuff to know, especially if your life depends on your blade.

This is why I stress severe testing of blades for folks going into harm's way -- military, SWAT, hunters, backpackers, Search and Rescue, anybody who may have to put the blade to severe use for life's sake. Better to have it fail in the back yard than when your life depends on it.

Example: I've been typing for near 60 years and consider myself a fast and fairly accurate typist BUT every now and then I make a mistake that could prove disastrous. Another example: I was doing some online banking and hit the "," rather than the "." Lucky for me the bank said, "cannot withdraw more than balance." Kamis are the same. They have a bad day, pour water on hot steel a little farther back then they should, and you have a knife with a shaky handle.

Thanks, WM, for starting this thread. It just might save somebody's life.
 
"Cliff Stamp and I share the same philosophy about destruction testing. You know you are going to "probably" destroy the knife you are testing so it is written off before you start. If it survives then you are in the real +++ category.

The value of destruction testing is it tells you how much abuse a knife (or anything else for that matter -- we used to weight up a wing to see how much it would take before it ripped off the fuselage) will take before it fails and this is good stuff to know, especially if your life depends on your blade."

As far as I can tell, starting out by trying to chop up a Pakistani khuk is kinda like hanging an random truck off the wing. Whether or not the wing survives you don't learn that much. Only how it deals with that random truck which could be full or empty. Better to slowly work up through known, reproducable stress like chopping rods of copper, brass, mild steel, or whatever.

If it were me I'd do the same progressive tests on the Pakistani khuk too. At least at the end you'd end up with something sorta reproducable and a more practical comparison.

Why risk trashing what is almost certainly an excellent khuk and what might be a good khuk without finding out what they really are? What's to be learned from that?

But, do what you want, if they're both your knives.
 
If it were me I'd do the same progressive tests on the Pakistani khuk too. At least at the end you'd end up with something sorta reproducable and a more practical comparison.

This would be the most informative way to go.
 
It's already well known what an HI Khuk can do.

Instead of hurting your HI and destroying the Paki Khuk, what I'd consider doing (been contemplating the following idea myself) would be to take the cheap Paki Khuk and grind the edge off to use it as a training knife.
 
Thanks everyone.
BTW, I really didn't know what the properties of a standard Pakastani knife were. I thought I might be able to break it in half with less trouble that what you guys are saying. Thanks for the info!!!
Have a great day.

BTW, I'ts not a Pak. Khuk. Just a chopper.
 
and so is Bruise. I did cut coins, and yes, compare hardneses. THe most steel I've cut with mine is some cheap stainless flatware, only a few mm thick. I think cutting 1/8th inch of SS is okay, if done properly (see the extreme cutting principles section in the Safety FAQ.

Keith
 
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