Detente placement..

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Hi, Steve!!Knowing how busy you are, I wa hoping to ask if you could check something out for me??I had finished the blade that Gene Ingram did for me awhile back into folder and have been using it a while. I did a bad job on the placement of the detente and blade opens up a bit,just enough to show the tip. Can I send it to you?? Thanks. Danny
 
Sure. I can either do another detent or bump the one in it up to the next size bigger and try it again in the same spot if its possible.

We'll get it right for you one way or the other.

I am going to be very busy until I catch up here once I get back to the shop but I'll get to it my friend. Just be aware things are stacking up a bit due to my time off so it may be a tad longer turn around than you have grown used to.

That pretty much goes for everyone right now.

STR
 
Thanks, my friend! I will ship out early next week and you can get to it when you can, no problem!! Take care and have great and safe new year!!
 
No problem. Normally what happens when it has some play in it can be two fold.

On some you get them just right but they hold so tight it actually is difficult or even painful to make the blade lift up to release it from the ball when the blade is in the closed position. So normally the cure for this is to tap the ball down a bit further. It does a sweet job allowing the thumb to start the blade to the open position but it places the ball so far in the hole that it now doesn't fit the hole in the blade quite as good and you have a bigger hole than is needed for the amount of ball going into it. It allows that little bit of play.

You could fix that by tapping the ball back out a bit using a number 53 drill and putting it in upside down in your drill press and simply sinking it in so deep that only a small bit of the bottom of the bit sticks out of the chuck. Then tap it into the hole and push using the press. It will move the ball a bit or push it completely out for you to reseat it.

If that just makes it grab all that much more then you can try to increase the diameter of the hole in the blade by no more than a hairs width at a time until you see which you like best.

Now you know why most makers keep a small amount of 2mm balls or 3/32 diameter balls in conjunction with the 1/16" balls they normally use. For just such an occasion when they mess up the small one.

I started keeping the bigger ones for when you get a bad drill bit which can happen when you buy in bulk. I've had #53 drills sent to me for the 1/16" balls 10 to 15 at a time. These last for years but when you pull one out one day and suddenly find that one out of that batch was a 1/16" and not a #53 you end up with a ball that drops in and won't stick since your hole is too big. Now you have to either peen the hole north south east and west like a jeweler would to hold a diamond making a mount if you can follow that. :-) And you can make that work or for many its just easier to pull out the bigger balls and use that unless you drilled your hole so close to the edge of the contact cut that this is not possible.

STR
 
I got your folder in this morning.

I have looked it over briefly just to see it. Looks tough. I'm not sure how I'm going to get the old detent ball out without the hole drilled all the way through the lock.

I will dwell on it and come to some conclusive way to deal with it when I get to it though.

STR
 
Thanks, S ! If I remember correctly, I might have preened the ball in a bit as the hole was bit larger than I wanted( my first and last time to make a folder and detent). Whatever you do is fine with me. Take care !
 
I got the chance to look closer at your folder today. I put the next size ball in so it has a 2mm size now. It grabs and holds as it should but I still noted the blade moves up and when I started looking at why because I know the ball is set correctly, it turns out that what is happening is that the lock is moving upwards with the blade which is allowing the tip of the blade to raise up. In other words the lock moves up and down too easy for some reason.

It took me about 20 minutes to get a new ball in it. What I 'm thinking is that the only way to really fix it is to make a new lock side for it. I don't have time now but that moving lock is not going to stop doing that. Its not something I've seen before but it may have to do with the width of the lock more than anything as well as the hole drilled in the tail end of the long cut which brings the width down even more at the lock cuts so I can't say why 100% for sure. I think thats it but I put it away and moved on to my other project after giving it a once over.

Just FYI.

STR
 
Thanks for the quick reply! Maybe, adjusting for the lock engagement? Anyway, I leave all up to you.
 
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