Did I just buy a fake small 21 with snakewood?

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I got it a few days ago on CL and I broke it down to check the parts before I handed my money over. Everything looked pretty good at the time, as well as the packaging, and could pass for NIB, but when I had better light and broke it down to lube up back at the office, I noticed a few things that were odd. The there is only one bevel on the inside of the stop pin and pivot bushing, where as the back spacer has it on both sides. The pivot hole on one side of the blade has a nicely ground bevel on one side, but the other is really rough looking.

Here it is broken down:
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Here's the blade with the stamp. Notice the different "V?" CRK told me that some blades with this particular build date have a regular "V" as opposed to the more commonly seen angled "V":
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Here are the scales. Date stamp has a dash? CRK also told me that having a dash in the date is also consistent with the build date:
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Here's another pic of the blade with the thumb stud as well as the bevel in the pivot hole. Everything looks very good here:
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Flip it over and you can see the roughly finished bevel:
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Presentation side of the scales. Everything looks good here too:
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Bevels on the inside of the bushings. You can see the light reflect off of the bevels:
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And no bevels on the inside of the bushings:
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Another thing I noticed is that the stop pin is VERY soft. Like I said earlier, the knife could pass for NIB, but the stop pin had dents in it where it came in contact with the blade, so it made very little sense to me that there was nothing on the tang of the blade to reflect that it had been slammed open/shut. Broke it down again today to improve the action with a fourth lube job and noticed that the stop pin is starting to look pretty beat up and there is no way that the flicking that I've been doing after reassembly to set the lock should be making that kind of damage especially since my other large 21 is 13 years old, which I've treated harsher, and absolutely no dents on the stop pin.

I'm hoping that it isn't a fake because it cost me a lot more than what a clone should go for, but I've got really mixed feelings if it was just someone having a bad day at CRK. I'm also submitting pics to CRK to see if it's fugazzi.
 
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I thought the "V" on the blade has vertical sections at the top of each side?
 
It looks real to me, don't worry about little imperfections in it. CRK promises a beautiful knife, not a perfect one. If perfect is what you want, look at a custom maker.
 
This is totally off subject, but isn't it the greatest to tear-down, clean, lube, and reassemble a CRK?!!? BTW - looks legit to me, not going to go into details....
 
Thanks for the input everyone!

I thought the "V" on the blade has vertical sections at the top of each side?

That's what I thought as well, but apparently, there are different stamps on blades. If this is a fake, it's a VERY good one.

It looks real to me, don't worry about little imperfections in it. CRK promises a beautiful knife, not a perfect one. If perfect is what you want, look at a custom maker.

I dunno man, for the mystique Chris has built up around his products, those little details and QC feels like it's something one should expect when owning a CRK. Thing like blade symmetry, uneven bevels, and tool marks? I can understand, but the lack of finishing on parts seems really off to me. Either way, I'm pretty sure I need a new stop pin.

This is totally off subject, but isn't it the greatest to tear-down, clean, lube, and reassemble a CRK?!!? BTW - looks legit to me, not going to go into details....

Totally agree. The best part is not having to worry about tuning it like other knives. Everything fits exactly the way it's supposed to and you know right away if you goofed up. I have to fight the urge to clean them once a week eventhough they're more man jewelry than actual tools since I've been pushing pencils more than opening and breaking down stuff lately. Nothing quite like making it your own. :D
 
The knife looks legit to me, but any Large Sebenza 21 that is 13 years old would qualify as "highly suspicious" to me ;)

Haha...right! Thinking Classic, but typed 21.

On another note, it's confirmed as legit, but that opens another can of worms in regards to the finishing of parts. Eek. I'm sure I'll be taken care of though. I just wish shipping wasn't so steep!
 
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