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Sorry guys. I said that my 18" AKs are 9/16" thick. Wrong again! More like 7/16"+. Did this once before.


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Just as long as you don't drop the 16ths you'll be okay, Jay. We don't want to end up with an 800 pound AK to go along with the 800 pound Salyan.

Uncle Bill
 
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Jay,that's why I measured the last ones I posted with a Caliper.
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Then posted it in decimal inches.
It is kind of hard to measure the spines accuratly with a scale,at least for me. I think the double angle on the spine causes this.

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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.
 
I gave away my calipers and mics years ago. But I still have my slide rule if anybody can remember what those things were.

Uncle Bill
 
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Slide rule. Hmmm. That's interesting.
I never did learn how to use one of them things and then didn't need to when the calculators got fancy enough.
I do have one though,in with the calipers. It belongs to my wife Barb.
Yep,she could read some of it,but didn't learn all the functions.

She is one helluva machine operator herself. She sets up small hand mills and runs them,chqanges cutters,etc.
She also runs a gear hobbing machine as well as an MSO which is a multiple station indexable table that does all kinds of neat stuff. She even went to some classes that the shop had at the local JR.College to run a Davenport 5 spindle automatic screw machine.

She has a small set of tools. We worked at the same place for a good many years until I got hurt. She's still there. I told her she could use my tools,but doesn't because she knows how fussy I am with my tools and doesn't want anyone else to borrow them. She does borrow something for herself once in a while though. It's also nice to be able to speak the same language and appreciate the beauty of a finely machined piece of metal.


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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.
 
I use a cloth tape or sometimes a ruler. It's close enough for me. When I weigh the khuks, I use an electronic scale from the materials testing lab at work.

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E6B (?) is a slide rule, and the last time I was in the Hangar ( NE corner Plumb and Virginia in Reno ) they were still selling them.
 
My last engineering job was with Bell down in New Orleans to do some work on hovercrafts. I'd been out of it for 4 or 5 years and during those years the slide rule had been replaced with the fancy hand calulators that did all sorts of neat tricks.

I showed up for my first day at work with my old K & E aluminum slide rule. I took it out of its scabbard and the first time I pulled the slide it squeaked like a rusty hinge. Everybody in the office looked over at the old dinosaur with the slide rule and scratched their heads.

I never did get the fancy hand calculator.

Uncle Bill
 
Hi All,
Well now, I've still got my "slip sticks", and I still use them. They don't require batteries. This is the same kind of mind set that keeps me trusting the other old and proven equipment available, like Khukries. The old stuff may be slower at times and not have all the neat bells and whistles of newer stuff, and it 'ain't all bad. There is a lot to be said in favor of slow and simple.

Maybe that is one of the reasons the world has gone to hell in a hand basket. The need for speed and instant gratification. If it's not easy it's not done. The mediocrity of a hack passes for the excellence of a craftsman.
'nuff said, rant mode off.
I'll go back and lay down by my dish.
Dan
 
Dan :

Maybe that is one of the reasons the world has gone to hell in a hand basket. The need for speed and instant gratification. If it's not easy it's not done.

On topic of calculators and math and in line with the above comment from Dan - they stopped teaching long division in schools around here awhile ago and now they don't even bother to get the kids to learn the multiplication tables. No I am not kidding. They make up a sheet with a square containing the numbers and they use this as a crude calculator.

I am curious to see how long it takes for them to remove addition and subtraction.

-Cliff
 
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I would have loved to have had one when I first started in the machine shop.
Problem is there weren't too many of the ones who knew all the functions around. If I could have learned then I would probably still remember how to use one now.

When I first started in a machine shop my first "precision tool" was a 6" Vernier Caliper. I swapped it off and got a Swiss made "Tesa" dial caliper which is the one I have at home.
I was getting to where I had to use magnifiers to read the vernier accurately enough. It would split hairs as finely as a Kuhkuri though and I still feel like they are more accurate.Although I do have to admit I really loved the "digital" Brown and Sharpe 6" caliper Barb bought for me.
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The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.


[This message has been edited by Yvsa (edited 23 July 1999).]
 
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Hi Dan.
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After buying and going through a couple of the Tokyo Tire & Supply
(Mitutoyo) at that time the Tesa's came to be the cheapest calipers I have ever had. I did pay dearly for them back then. I think it was around $86.00 about 1/2 paycheck.
The also didn't have the 4 way measurement on them,but I used them trouble free for many years.If they were sent back in for recalibration they would be just like new. In spite of all the years use they are still smoother than the Starrets I have.

I would hate to be a young mam starting out today. I know good tools have went out of site. I bought an Interapid Swiss made Test Indicator back then too. I thought it was a bunch until I bought another one about 8 years ago. I paid over $100.00 for that one. The first one has never been in the shop,I just needed another one for a set of Indicals. Good tools are like good oil and grease.They are cheap in the long run.
Kinda like Uncle Bills and Nepals Kuhkuri's. They are a bargain at the price.
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>>>>---¥vsa---->®
The civilized man sleeps behind locked doors in the city while the naked savage sleeps (with a knife) in a open hut in the jungle.
 
I not only have a slide rule,I have a 4 1/2 foot long slide rule! It must have been a teaching aid or something. When I saw it at a yard sale I just had to have it.
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It now resides hanging over a doorway in my office. Unfortunatly I only know how to do a few things on it ( I grew up in the new fangled calculator generation)
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. Marcus
 
My Dad gave me a slide rule for my birthday years ago, beautiful thing, never learned to use it though. Never would have made it through college trig with it. That class was the one where I learned what all those extra buttons on scientific calculators were for. I'll vouch highly for the $16.00 Casio.
 
I took ground school with an E6B.I have a couple of slide rules and mike sets.The Vernier is handy.Brown,Starret and Brown &Sharp made them.That dates me.

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That 4 1/2 foot slide rule rang a bell in this old head. I took a course in slide rule in college, for no credit as I recall, and the prof used a large (about 6 feet) slide rule as a teaching aid. It was hung on hooks at top blackboard level.

If we each had a dime for every rate-of-climb point I calculated with a slide rule we could all retire.

Uncle Bill
 
Uncle Bill; I`d bet the farm that you can run an E6B for flight planning.It wouldn`t be a slide rule as it is circular.

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ghost, I remember those, too. I never owned one but played with a few. Since it is as you said essentially a circular slide rule I learned to operate it quickly.

Uncle Bill
 
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